the fruits of ebay

[tobytools]

Hi
I have seen loads of the car boot threads, so i thought i would show my latest job lot. As you all know how partial i am to a car booty.

got two lots from the same guy, i put in a stupidly low bid ad ended up winning both lots. all in all, including postage, it came to under £30.00.

their's Dado planes, Reed, Rebate, Moulding, Groove, Moving Sash Filster,bill snipe planes, Ovalo sash moulding planes, Hollow, Ogee Plane?????
6 of these are mosley and son,
New st,
Covt Garden,
London

Other names are as follows:
Goad 77,
tottenam
ct rd

Higgs with serrated edge
r.amarsden
e.minister with serrated edge.

Griffiths norwich
COX
1. GR t O n S ST
LINCOLNS INN FIELDS

buck

most have serrated edge stamps.

The only reason i even bid on this lot was for the record router plane.

Hope you like it
TT

 

[tobytools]

rest of the photos...

 

[AndyT]

Nice haul! - how did I miss that lot?
You have a good selection of useful tools there. Some gentle cleaning and sharpening should keep you amused for a little while.

 

[tobytools]

Nice haul! - how did I miss that lot?
You have a good selection of useful tools there. Some gentle cleaning and sharpening should keep you amused for a little while.

Thanks Andy, I cleaned them all last night, with just need to replace one wedge and bees wax woodies and clean irons (easy work) them scrub up record tools I started the router and re took pic, just need to sort rust out and bam. I'll keep a few of the and sell the rest. The lots came with a bit more stuff but mostlet junk. There was a wood block with adjustable mouth and a cheap version of a record plough plane, a bow saw and bit and bobs. I'm happy. I like the dado planes tho all ways wanted on now I have 3 all diffrent sizes (got one last week or so) ill post pics when restored. And share my crazy way of doing it that some may find stupid.

all the metal buts cost £5 and woodiea cost £13.?? And postage £10.50

 

[Richard T]

That moving filister (9th pic down) apart from the fence, appears to be all there. A rare thing indeed in my experience.

Does it have screw holes for the fence? In which case you'll need some bolts. We've been here before.

Considering the metal plane equivalents are so expensive - £260+ for the Veritas and I was offered the only Stanley I have ever seen for £200 - you'd think they'd be more sought after and get better prices.

 

[Scouse]

Great haul and bargain price too; I'm jealous of the closed throat router!

Richard's right about the moving filister, I picked one up at a booty last year, having previously avoided woodies like the plague, but it has become one of those indispensible tools; skew blade, cross grain nicker and solid fence, all better than their metal plane equivalents.

 

[tobytools]

Hi Richard,
I think it does have to holes on the bottom for a fence like the groove planes in pic 5, looking back I think I've missed a few pics out, don't those plane normally have to arms and a side fence like a plough? I could be wrong but im sure i have on like that,
In pic 6 and 7 those are snipe planes? Only if i have the others to make 2 sets.

I'm going to get that book Andy told me about so i can identify old makers ect.
(ill take some better pics if anyone want to all angles of certain planes)
TT

 

[tobytools]

The lot was on eBay and listed as wood groove planes or some thing stupid and was stuffed in a box with 2 block planes on top so could really see what was there. I could make out that there was the 2 dado planes so went for it.
I like the router to and its got most parts missing the screw for fence and another iron. Where could I get a replacement for this?

Ps, its tipping it down so hopefully I can go home soon and ill post more pics or what was also in the lot and start restoring.

Down side, all the irons will need sharpening and the complex ones look a bit tricky so will have to wait to sharpen these as I'm still not 100% at it and wouldn't want to ruin them so sharpening will have to hold on

Can any one give me a link to sharpening these or tips? Thanks
TT

 

[AndyT]

Picking up a few points:

The Salaman Dictionary is essential for identifying tools and giving some idea of how they were used but it doesn't give info on makers. For plane makers the 'bible' is British Planemakers by WL Goodman. There are three different editions, all out of print, hard to find and expensive. The third edition is rarest and is much bigger than its predecessors, listing 1650 makers and their marks. A fourth edition is in preparation but unlikely to appear any time soon.
If you can't find or afford a copy of Goodman, get hold of Tony Murland's guide. It lists most of the 18th century plane makers so is good for checking whether you have something really old. It also covers lots of American tools.


The plane in your ninth pic is a moving fillister and cuts a rebate on the near side of the work. It should have a simple wooden fence fixed to the sole by two or three screws through slots. As Richard hinted these are not easy to find - they have a big flat head and a woodscrew thread on a non-tapered body.


A sash fillister cuts a rebate on the far side of the work, as done in making the glazing rebate on windows. That's the one with a fence on arms. Very often misidentified by eBay sellers as a plough.


For sharpening moulding plane irons the first reference that comes to mind is on Alf's excellent website at http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/combihow2.html.

 

[bugbear]

For sharpening moulding plane irons the first reference that comes to mind is on Alf's excellent website at Cornishworkshop.co.uk.

I'd suggest Dunbar's "Restoring, Tuning & Using Classic Woodworking Tools "

BugBear

 

[tobytools]

Thanks everyone ill check out links when home,

Andy I've searched that book "British planemakers from 1700 by William Louis Goodman. Can get it for around £26.
Those other books mentioned are like £250 a piece so that's a no go. Isn't there a complete copy hidden online that I could just print off

with the moving filister could I just take the fence off a groove plane, I have a spare!

TT

 

[AndyT]

£26 would be a good price for the second edition, which is much smaller than the third, but still worth having. The Tony Murland book is only £7.

 

[tobytools]

I'll have a look on amazon, for that. Might as well get them saves me asking questions about makers ect and will help me identify rarer planes in future, as I've probably walked past some super rare manky plane
TT

 

[AndyT]

Just as Google does not contain all the world's information, Amazon do not sell all the world's books.

I recommend a phone call!

 

[wastrel]

It's a bit cheaper here:-


http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Searc ... +from+1700

 

[tobytools]

Just found the original fence for the filister plane
It was attached to a groove plane. That's lucky.
the iron has ward stamped onto it
if a woodie has tiny splits in the bodys should I coat them in linseed oil then wax?
TT