wow thanks vey much that just what i was after , i would love to do it the proper way and i will try and find time as my great grandad could do this he made all the sash windows in his house by hand, when i do it will do a wip but will be a while yet as busy with work :roll:. i have modern practical joinery and i agree is a super book,AndyT":2i8atec7 said:A lot depends on whether you want to make them by hand or with machinery. Plenty of books show a diagram or two of the general construction, but leave out lots about the sequence of operations and how to make your case and sashes fit the opening in the wall.
There is a rather good detailed book that The Woodworker reprinted in the 70s, written about 1920 I think, that describes hand techniques. Not easy to find; there was this copy on eBay recently.
Probably a lot more useful - as it is available in full, for free, is Cassell's Carpentry and Joinery, from 1907, edited by Paul Hasluck. Start here to read on-line or here to download as a pdf.
It assumes handwork throughout, and is reassuringly detailed, showing how to make and use a rod for the dimensions, and also some special templates for marking out the joints.
There's also a useful (but inevitably brief) video by Roy Underhill that shows how to plane up sash sections here.
I'd be interested in a wip if you do decide to do it the trad way!
i would do as much by hand as possible (hammer) ive found a copy of that book above, what a book it is but what a price it is :shock:,AndyT":an1cwppr said:It would be fascinating if you could make at least one by hand. It's something I'd like to try but have no need to do.
Reading through the descriptions, and thinking about the millions of hand made windows that were built in the C18th and 19th, one huge difference between then and now is in the cost of setting oneself up to make them.
With the hand tool approach, you'd need:
rip, crosscut and back saws, also a padsaw;
planes - jack, try, smoother, plough, fillister, rebate and moulding planes for each pattern/size of moulding
brace and bits
chisels, scribing gouge
rule and square.
So, apart from the bench, you could fit all the tools into a joiner's tool basket.
Nowadays you'd be looking at:
Dust extraction system
Needing lots of space and costing tens of thousands. The barrier to entry is much higher.
awsome thanks il print that off, thanks for all the really helpful replysBenchwayze":399qikgc said:Is this of any use to you shim?
http://www.gifford-park-assoc.org/Makin ... HBLeke.pdf
Just save it to your hard drive.
I know Jacob does this for a living, so he'll hopefully be along with some references for you.shim20":qw0znu6d said:dose anyone know of a book with detailed information on how to make these, its something i would like to know how to make.
shim20":ayjfn1ey said:just came today, was just the book i was looking for thanks dose anyone know what sort of moulding plane i would need to do the mouldings by hand? something like a Fillester Moulding Plane? or a stanley 55?