moore and wright combination set

[jorgoz]

I'm looking to buy some decent marking gear. I've got my eye on the moore and wright series 520 combination set ? http://www.moore-and-wright.com/products/show/3939

This one is quite affordable compared to the starret and mitutuyo ones, but i guess it will be of a lesser quality, but maybe not by that much seeing it's moore and wright. Has anyone got one ? How accurate is it ?

 

[RogerS]

Being devils' advocate I'm never sure why we (yup, I'm just as bad) get in a tizzy about 'decent' (whatever that means) marking sets and woodwork.

Does it help us make better joints?

 

[jorgoz]

Well in this case it's also about the added flexibility of the set. Protactor head, center finding head. The use of the square and rule as a set marking gauge and hopefully to boot accuracy.

But i think better marking gives better end results. As David Charlesworth put it, if you've got accurate marking out of the way, the actual cutting of the joints is not all that hard. And for me the pleasure of working with good tools makes you want to use them, but i'd like to be as reasonable as possible to their cost.

 

[Harbo]

I think in this instance we are looking for consistency and reasonable accuracy which is more likely to be found in decent tools?

45degrees when marked out should be 45degrees not 39!

I have quite a lot of old Moore & Wright stuff which is of excellent quality and accuracy - cannot comment on new stuff but M&W are a "good name"?


Rod

 

[xy mosian]

Now I used to have a combination set, cheaper version. I would not buy another whatever the quality or cost. They have all the problems of 'combinations' of other sorts, namely that the blade is almost always in the wrong stock. The other problem I had was trying to keep track of the brass bits used to clamp the stocks to the blade. My advice would be to either get three, good quality, separate devices, or track down two spare blades for use with the combination set.
xy

 

[bugbear]

I'm looking to buy some decent marking gear. I've got my eye on the moore and wright series 520 combination set ? http://www.moore-and-wright.com/products/show/3939

This one is quite affordable compared to the starret and mitutuyo ones

Really? Where from?

M&W was always a tip-top name in British precision metrology.

(googly research...)
Ah! It's a special cheap model; here's the "real" M&W combi set, with a real precision price!

http://www.moore-and-wright.com/products/show/4756

http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalo ... sme12.html

BugBear

 

[jorgoz]

I'm looking to buy some decent marking gear. I've got my eye on the moore and wright series 520 combination set ? http://www.moore-and-wright.com/products/show/3939

This one is quite affordable compared to the starret and mitutuyo ones

Really? Where from?

M&W was always a tip-top name in British precision metrology.

(googly research...)
Ah! It's a special cheap model; here's the "real" M&W combi set, with a real precision price!

http://www.moore-and-wright.com/products/show/4756

http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalo ... sme12.html

BugBear

Aah, well that would be the less affordable set :lol:

 

[jorgoz]

Finally got an email from M&W today, after a bit of dilly dallying from their part.
I asked them about the tolerance for the 520 series.

Quote : "the combination Set 520 Series works to no specific standard and we do not state a tolerance for this product, its a general factory use item."

Good as their rep may be, they need to work on their customer support though.

 

[bugbear]

Finally got an email from M&W today, after a bit of dilly dallying from their part.
I asked them about the tolerance for the 520 series.

Quote : "the combination Set 520 Series works to no specific standard and we do not state a tolerance for this product, its a general factory use item."

Good as their rep may be, they need to work on their customer support though.

Their precision background is showing; they're using words in a specific (and probably not helpful to public) way.

They're NOT saying they're inaccurate rubbish. What they're saying is that they're not sure HOW accurate the 520 is. And they're being honest about it. A lesser manufacturer would probably start using (legal) weasel words.

BugBear

 

[miles_hot]

Finally got an email from M&W today, after a bit of dilly dallying from their part.
I asked them about the tolerance for the 520 series.

Quote : "the combination Set 520 Series works to no specific standard and we do not state a tolerance for this product, its a general factory use item."

Good as their rep may be, they need to work on their customer support though.

Their precision background is showing; they're using words in a specific (and probably not helpful to public) way.

They're NOT saying they're inaccurate rubbish. What they're saying is that they're not sure HOW accurate the 520 is. And they're being honest about it. A lesser manufacturer would probably start using (legal) weasel words.

BugBear

Possibly - or maybe they didn't actually make it and hence have no idea what accuracy rating it has; are they re-badging it? I have two M&W set squares and love using them safe in the knoweledge that it's just me messing up the joint and not the measuring kit

Miles

 

[Alf]

It'd be a black day if Moore and Wright were rebadging. I'm not saying they're not, but I'd be surprised - and depressed. Without further information, I'd go with BB's take on it. I imagine, for woodworking, even M&W's unspecified standard is more than adequate.

 

[warrenr]

Hi

Nice bits of kit but I was told that combination sets come into their own on site with joiners as they are very portable and can cope with much of the required setting out for building work. They are better and more flexible options for the workshop.

I have a number of engineer's and try squares of different sizes and bevel gauges for the workshop.

Regards
Richard