Mirka Deros

[Petey83]

Hoping some can help advise on this.

I am looking to get rid of a couple of my two ROS and move to a single one with both 125mm and a 150mm heads but what i am wondering is will a Deros with it's 5mm orbit be capable of stock removal as well as fine finishing?

I am not a sander expert but always believed you needed a small orbit for fine finishing

 

[Wuffles]

I use a 150mm ROS 5mm for stock removal (not a Mirka mind you).

You will also note I am selling a Festool Rotex 150 (lauded for its stock removal) because I use a 150mm ROS 5mm for stock removal and find I don't need the Rotex.

So I'd imagine you'll be alright.

 

[deema]

I have the Deros and with the speed control can ether take stock off or delicately sand. It's now my only weapon of choice. Absolutely fabulous dust collection, light and almost vibration free. Simply put.....perfect

 

[sitefive]

got the deros, and yes you can use it for both light sanding and stock removal..
It's lightweight, not that loud, ergonomic with good dust extraction BUT... at least for me it doesn't leaves as good finish as my other much cheaper sander ( leaves terrible swirl marks on just about anything.. wood/concrete/metal ) Maybe mine is faulty I dunno but the finish quality is def NOT worth the £320 it costs! Also although it isn't cheaply built it def feels like an unit that would cost maybe £50 not £300+

Also Don't fall for the abranet things as well, the people on this forum will tell you they are great ( because all they make is some tiny useless picture frames so they don't use them a lot) but they are POS and they certainly don't last longer than the standard sandingpaper because they just get teared up if you aren't sanding only a flat surface.

Not that impressed with it to be honest, the only positive thing is that it weighs less than a kilo when my other sander weighs in at almost 3kg. Also have to remember to switch it off (unplug from electricity/hold the button to shut it down) everytime when you leave it somewhere else it will just topple over and turn on itself...every god damn time that happens...

But I still use it because I do a lot of sanding and I would get tired from the louder noise/much more heavy units.. If you won't be using it for more than 20minutes a day - Don't waste your money!

 

[n0legs]

got the deros, and yes you can use it for both light sanding and stock removal..
It's lightweight, not that loud, ergonomic with good dust extraction BUT... at least for me it doesn't leaves as good finish as my other much cheaper sander ( leaves terrible swirl marks on just about anything.. wood/concrete/metal ) Maybe mine is faulty I dunno but the finish quality is def NOT worth the £320 it costs! Also although it isn't cheaply built it def feels like an unit that would cost maybe £50 not £300+

Also Don't fall for the abranet things as well, the people on this forum will tell you they are great ( because all they make is some tiny useless picture frames so they don't use them a lot) but they are POS and they certainly don't last longer than the standard sandingpaper because they just get teared up if you aren't sanding only a flat surface.

Not that impressed with it to be honest, the only positive thing is that it weighs less than a kilo when my other sander weighs in at almost 3kg. Also have to remember to switch it off (unplug from electricity/hold the button to shut it down) everytime when you leave it somewhere else it will just topple over and turn on itself...every god damn time that happens...

But I still use it because I do a lot of sanding and I would get tired from the louder noise/much more heavy units.. If you won't be using it for more than 20minutes a day - Don't waste your money!

Petey83,
If I was you I would IGNORE all that is written in this post above. Nothing is ever good enough in this members eyes.

Use the search if you need to find out more.
However,
Mirka Deros - Excellent IMHO. Used and very highly rated by myself
Abranet (as mentioned by the member above) - Excellent, this will be the opinion of most of the members here. Used and very highly rated by myself.

 

[RogerBoyle]

got the deros, and yes you can use it for both light sanding and stock removal..
It's lightweight, not that loud, ergonomic with good dust extraction BUT... at least for me it doesn't leaves as good finish as my other much cheaper sander ( leaves terrible swirl marks on just about anything.. wood/concrete/metal ) Maybe mine is faulty I dunno but the finish quality is def NOT worth the £320 it costs! Also although it isn't cheaply built it def feels like an unit that would cost maybe £50 not £300+

Also Don't fall for the abranet things as well, the people on this forum will tell you they are great ( because all they make is some tiny useless picture frames so they don't use them a lot) but they are POS and they certainly don't last longer than the standard sandingpaper because they just get teared up if you aren't sanding only a flat surface.

Not that impressed with it to be honest, the only positive thing is that it weighs less than a kilo when my other sander weighs in at almost 3kg. Also have to remember to switch it off (unplug from electricity/hold the button to shut it down) everytime when you leave it somewhere else it will just topple over and turn on itself...every god damn time that happens...

But I still use it because I do a lot of sanding and I would get tired from the louder noise/much more heavy units.. If you won't be using it for more than 20minutes a day - Don't waste your money!

Perhaps if you had bought new then you may have a different opinion.....

 

[PAC1]

I would compare the Deros with the Festool. When I was looking I was surprised to see the Festool as better value than the Deros
Abranet does last far longer than traditional paper based systems and is far better for dust extraction.

 

[scosarg]

The Mirka Deros units are excellent... They do different size orbits for different applications... We use a 10mm orbit hd unit for stripping the surface off things and I use a 5mm orbit for finishing... You can also get 2.5 orbit, but I haven't tried that as the 5mm is fantastic if you use the right abrasive / grit for the job in hand. There are plenty of high quality abrasive suppliers out there

 

[RobinBHM]

Certainly the mirka air sander I use is powerful enough for stock removal and fine finishing.

It seems less powerful than other 150mm air sanders I have, but I think thats because the mirka is so much quieter and has less vibration.

I find the 150mm dia and 5mm orbit can sand fine enough for denibbing between finishing coats but still powerful enough for heavy sanding with 60 or 80 gtit.

Abranet is available in 2 grades, I believe the ace is ceramic and lasts longer

 

[lurker]

Perhaps if you had bought new then you may have a different opinion.....

I wouldnt bet on it :roll:

 

[deema]

I personally only buy Abranet sanding discs, it lasts forever in my experience which is mainly with rather large lumps of oak. I find that after time the edge frays which causes me to change it rather than it getting clogged / loosing grit / wearing out . The discarded pieces are used for hand sanding until I've another disc to replace. Can't actually remember the last time I wore the grit out on wood!

Only thing to consider is that at the higher grits sand about 60 grit rougher than normal sanding discs IMO I.e a 180 is like a normal 120.

 

[Wuffles]

I personally only buy Abranet sanding discs, it lasts forever in my experience which is mainly with rather large lumps of oak. I find that after time the edge frays which causes me to change it rather than it getting clogged / loosing grit / wearing out . The discarded pieces are used for hand sanding until I've another disc to replace. Can't actually remember the last time I wore the grit out on wood!

Only thing to consider is that at the higher grits sand about 60 grit rougher than normal sanding discs IMO I.e a 180 is like a normal 120.

Absolutely this ^^

So very true in all respects.

 

[JJ1]

Another vote for Abranet. It lasts forever. I must have started using it about 3 years ago, having read the recommendations on this forum and I've yet to throw any used discs away. When it's really past it's best for use on the sander, it goes on and on working superbly for hand sanding. I've even managed to clog some up with something or other, a rinse under the tap and it was as good as new.

 

[JJ1]

the people on this forum will tell you they are great ( because all they make is some tiny useless picture frames so they don't use them a lot)

What a sad individual you are :shock: :evil: (hammer) All the help and advice you've been given from other forum members on your numerous requests for assistance and that's your way of saying thank you and showing your appreciation.
It's not the first time you've posted derogatory comments either.

 

[Wuffles]

When it frays on the edges of a 150mm disc, I'm tight enough to cut it down to use on the 90mm.

 

[shed9]

When it frays on the edges of a 150mm disc, I'm tight enough to cut it down to use on the 90mm.

As tight as that is, I'm stealing that "why didn't I think of it" idea.


To add to the original query, Mirka have a good reputation and I would happily buy one tomorrow if I needed another ROS. I currently use a Festool RO150 and RO90 combination with an ETS150/3 for finish. Whilst the Festools are great in terms of efficiency and dust extraction, my one gripe is their respective weights. This can be a benefit for gravity sanding of pre-assembled pieces but when you need to sand the final completed item it very quickly gets boring.

Even the FOG members are 50/50 on the Mirka vs Rotex in my opinion so there must be something in it.

 

[Wuffles]

The EC models are lighter than the original ones though I think? I have an EC 150/5 - pretty much why I'm selling the RO150. You'd have to prize my RO90 out of my hands though.

 

[shed9]

The EC models are lighter than the original ones though I think? I have an EC 150/5 - pretty much why I'm selling the RO150. You'd have to prize my RO90 out of my hands though.

I'm tempted by the EC brushless because of their reported light weight. Is it worth the cash?

 

[Wuffles]

The EC models are lighter than the original ones though I think? I have an EC 150/5 - pretty much why I'm selling the RO150. You'd have to prize my RO90 out of my hands though.

I'm tempted by the EC brushless because of their reported light weight. Is it worth the cash?

It was in the Amazon 4 for 3 deal, yes. It's a lot of money to drop on a sander otherwise - says the man selling a second hand sander for close to £400.

 

[Petey83]

Thanks for the feedback gents. Deros has been ordered along with a good selection of 150mm and 125mm abranet abrasive disks.

The Rotex 90 is the other sander i am looking at but i have some big concerns around supply of abrasives as they seem to only come in packs of 50+ and i don't need that much and defiantly don't want to be spending £240 plus on getting a selection of grits in both circular and delta formats