Hybrid wood metal plane
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J_SAMa
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Painful transitionals #-o
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan4.htm
Basically you get a wheel adjuster, lateral lever and a metal frog with a wooden-bodied plane.
Wood on wood is much smoother than metal on wood, that's why wooden-soled planes are preferable. They are somewhat self-lubricating, as in the more you rub a wooden sole against wood, the more burnished it gets.
Also maybe the transitionals are lighter? Can someone confirm this as I've never used one.
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan4.htm
Basically you get a wheel adjuster, lateral lever and a metal frog with a wooden-bodied plane.
Wood on wood is much smoother than metal on wood, that's why wooden-soled planes are preferable. They are somewhat self-lubricating, as in the more you rub a wooden sole against wood, the more burnished it gets.
Also maybe the transitionals are lighter? Can someone confirm this as I've never used one.
Corneel
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Some people like them, others don't (as usual). I'm very curious also, but they are quite rare overhere and usually too expensive when one does turns up.
heatherw
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That's what I need, someone to convince me not to buy it. I'd never seen one before, it seems like a good idea, somehow.J_SAMa":285n9sgo said:
I have one, but with a steel sole. I rather like it!
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tobytools
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the seller barnes1659 is a good guy and sells only good stuff in well restored con, good luck, nice plane,
some people make there own bases out of nicer woods and to the size they want,
TT
some people make there own bases out of nicer woods and to the size they want,
TT
J_SAMa
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AndyT":uxyud6ba said:
Defeats the points of transitionals... Now it's like a mix between infills (metal sole), and full wooden planes (wooden body)... Quite funny to me really. Don't see how either an infill or a woodie can't outperform that transitional...
Sam
J_SAMa":iireq8u7 said:
Have a think about the time and place that this plane was offerred for sale - very early C20th USA. Plenty of housebuilding going on, using timber framing, but without power tools. Think about the way the company offered its whole range with a choice of adjuster and with or without a steel sole. They were not engaged in some theoretical performance contest between ordinary jack planes and specialist, expensive, cabinet maker's infill planes. They were selling to the ordinary jobbing builder, offering him a range of low priced tools. But if he had a few more cents in his pocket, they were ready with options to get it from him - a larger size, a different adjuster, a. wear plate on the sole.
The history of tools is full of examples like this, demonstrating that many techniques of branding and marketing are not as new as we might imagine.
Corneel
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I've always wondered about steel soles on wooden tools too. Wooden planes move a bit with the seasons. No problem really because it is easilly remidied with another plane. When you put a steel plate on the sole you can't easilly flatten it anymore.
But like you say it probably wasn't an issue for these clients. They used the plane more like a jack plane, often with dirty wood too. Mechanical wear would have been more of a problem to them then the seasonal movement issues.
But like you say it probably wasn't an issue for these clients. They used the plane more like a jack plane, often with dirty wood too. Mechanical wear would have been more of a problem to them then the seasonal movement issues.
