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Great review Mike. I'm sold on the EB3 gauge - clever piece of equipment.

For folks asking about non standard guide slots, can I say that you can buy stuff called "ground flat stock" or sometimes "gauge plate" at engineering supplies such as Cromwell. It's available in a wide range of sizes both metric and imperial: http://www.cromwell.co.uk/category_page/160202 for making up your own guide bars.


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Hi Mike

Thanks for posting your review, which was really helpful.

I should have posted a note of thanks before, but on the strength of your review I bought the V27 a couple of months ago. I am using it in my router table and am very pleased with it. At the time, I didn't feel I could justify buying the more expensive 1000SE, even though its fence is very tempting!

I have a couple of lengths of box section aluminium extrusion, one 450 mm long, and another at 230 mm (- 'borrowed' from my bandsaw). I have bolted the smaller one to the V27, and in practice I find this is adequate for the small projects I am doing at the moment. As is the norm, I also use a sacrificial length of timber to support the piece being routed. The problem with a longer fence is that space is limited in my garage and I suspect I would keep tripping over it.

However, when funds allow, I'll consider buying an extending Incra fence and FlipShopStop, which would upgrade the V27 more-or-less to 1000SE standard.

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Hi Les, thank you for taking the time to leave your comments. As you said adding a couple of extra's will give you a 1000E in all but name, and if you shop about (not only Incra), you could pick up the parts you need for a lot less.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

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Hi Mike great post very very helpful as i am currently looking to buy one of these.

Can anyone give me details of suppliers of incra mitre gauges in the UK so i can get prices

i have spoken to david osborne and can get and eb3 delivered for about £95.00 which does not seen to bad ????

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hunggaur wrote:
Hi Mike great post very very helpful as i am currently looking to buy one of these.

Can anyone give me details of suppliers of incra mitre gauges in the UK so i can get prices

i have spoken to david osborne and can get and eb3 delivered for about £95.00 which does not seen to bad ????

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Hi Hunggaur, it's good to hear that the review has helped you. As for the Osborne EB3 you are quite right £95 is an excellent price all the way from the States, but do not forget you may get hit by in port duty when it arrives. I say may because I have ordered a fair few tools and luckily I have never been hit yet. Mind you we live in a blink and you have missed it sort of town, where you would been forgiving for thinking that the pony express delivered the mail. With that said even if you are charged the extra £20 or so you will still have a very good deal.

Here are some Incra's, http://www.rutlands.co.uk/workshop-&-po ... gauge-1000
or there is this special edition model which I placed at No1 http://www.rutlands.co.uk/workshop-&-po ... al-edition

Although I have not tried it, I have heard good things about this Kreg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kreg-Precisio ... 2c6071b9cc Or the same one with a fence from Axminster.

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Sadly I have a record table saw and band saw. both have 12mm mitre slots. Pretty disapointing that Record dont have standard slots. Took me a whole year to save up for those bits of kit now I'm stuck with standard cross cut, put simply is a pain in the butt.

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A sled is the way to go if your gauge slot is non standard, there are some good ones, adjustable as well, investigate using search facilities.


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I've just come across this thread while perusing the web and looking at Mitre gauges (sad for a Friday evening)

Anyway, I have the Osborne mitre gauge, shipped in from the states by my sister who lives out there. Her husband is in the military so I have taken advantage of the domestic shipping rates for items coming over the pond.

If memory serves I think it was £54 all in, including shipping fees. This was a couple of years ago when the £ -$ rate was almost 2 to 1. Costings aside I have used the tool quite a lot and to date very pleased with it. It feels sturdy and the parts are well made. I have the self adhesive strip which comes with the kit attached to the fence. The strip is akin to the non slip tape for stair treads. Despite the use and environment the self adhesive tape shows no sign of wear or peeling from the fence.

The mitre bar of the fence fitted straight into my mitre track on the saw without any adjustment at all. This of course may just have been luck although there is the facility to adjust for sloppy side to side movement should it be required. It rides very smoothly and produces great work even with the fence extended fully.

This is the only after market mitre fence I have owned so cannot compare it to any others, Incra/Kreg etc but if I had to buy another mitre fence I would purchase another Osborne without doubt

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Hi, Brilliant review and as an owner of the Incra M1000 I agree that the quality and accuracy is spot on.

My problem - I had to downsize my workshop which ment the Delta table saw had to go.
As anyone come across a small table saw with the standard 3/4 x 3/8 mitre slot??????

At present my favorite saw is looking like the Axminster TS-200 due to the induction motor and cast iron table.
Sadly my Incra M1000 will not and cannot be modified to fit the TS-200 slot which is 19 x 15 x 6.5 "T".

I have considered having the table machine so it will take the standard mitre guide but at present I am having problems finding a machine shop capable - and I live in Sheffield the city of steel and tool making, or used to be.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. :( :( :(


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Big Al wrote:
Hi, Brilliant review and as an owner of the Incra M1000 I agree that the quality and accuracy is spot on.

My problem - I had to downsize my workshop which ment the Delta table saw had to go.
As anyone come across a small table saw with the standard 3/4 x 3/8 mitre slot??????

At present my favorite saw is looking like the Axminster TS-200 due to the induction motor and cast iron table.
Sadly my Incra M1000 will not and cannot be modified to fit the TS-200 slot which is 19 x 15 x 6.5 "T".

I have considered having the table machine so it will take the standard mitre guide but at present I am having problems finding a machine shop capable - and I live in Sheffield the city of steel and tool making, or used to be.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. :( :( :(


In a word, NO! There doesnt seem to be anything out there, unless possibly the excaliber has 3/4 x 3/8. That is a lot more money than the likes of the ts200 though.

Somebody on the forum did have the ts200 machined out, and the casting was just thick enough to do it, but was hairy in places. It also took a fair bit of setup time. Thread is on here somewhere.

I have just bought a kity 618, and myself and another person on the forum had the thought of possibly machining out the slots. I havent seen mine yet- it arrives tomorrow, but the other chap thinks that there should be enough meat on the casting (albeit anodised aluminium and not cast iron) to do it. In the short term, I am going to make an aluminium runner to use the Incra on the kity. This would certainly be the cheaper option to do, it just depends how many different things you want to run in the slot- for me, a decent aftermarket mitre gauge and a cross cut sled. Maybe some featherboards.

Why axminster didnt design the ts200 with 3/4" slots, I dont know. If they had, then I would have had no hesitation in buying one. As it was, I went for the 2nd hand kity for a bit more capacity, for the same money (ish) as the basic ts200. It wasnt 100% what I wanted, because I would have preferred a cast iron top, but it was the right money and should do me before I go for the Hammer saw/spindle combo in a few years time.

If you find a machine shop, let me know. I might give it another thought. Problem is if it goes wrong, it is an expensive mistake, potentially ruining the saw!


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I can not understand why these people don't standardise these things.
Don't these people realise we woodworkers in the UK are just as keen and dedicated as our counterparts over the pond.
It appears we can only get good equipment if we purchase from the States and pay the extortionet shipping costs.
I have seen very good items on the bay that cost a few pounds but cost tens of pounds in shipping.
I used to travel to the States each year in my job so used to purchase items and hide them amongst my smalls.

Hence my Incra M1000.
At the time I asked a shop in Chicago to give me a qoutation for shipping an excellent router table, shipping was 50% more thatn the table. Neadless to say I changed my mind.


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I agree. Particularly when the sellers of the saws are also sellers of the aftermarket extras!


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For all the woodworking accessories available to us there seems scant little in the way of choice for table saws or optional extras. Why no one has offered optional extras such as up rated fence systems, throat plate inserts or even as mentioned, have the mitre slots machined to a standard gauge is beyond me.

I recently bought a fairly expensive drill press. The same machine is offered in the States so I had a look at the You tube review. Amongst other things, the starter switch looked impressive and well engineered. I took the plunge and ordered mine online, when it arrived and despite costing £900 the start switch was the cheap and nasty starter fitted to "economy" machines. Why scimp on such items?? I'm waffling now but, you are right Big Al we just don't get the range or choice here in the UK. We need a Rockler!

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And if reverse engineering something in the far east, why not chose a sensible starting point- i.e. one with standard features, correct the errors and end up with a better offering. Good as the Kity is, I am sure that the TS200 could have been even better if they made a clone of the delta etc.


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Very good point marcros, I wonder if the UK importer looked at the test proven machines (built in the far east Delta, Rigid, Grizzly etc) destined for the States and thought Nah!..... have you any obscure and untested stuff which can't be up rated or obtain extras for?

Reminds me of the time the MOD were looking to trade in the 7.62 FN rifle for a suitable modern version in the early 1980's. Why not buy the US made tried and tested armalite rifle, cheap and reliable. OR......spend squillions on testing the SA80 rifle which turned out to be junk. Not quite a similar comparison with equipment but the thinking behind it is the same.

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