my infill plane. what do you think?

[tobytools]

hi,
i did a thread and it didnt amount to much so i thought i would make a new one with pictures.
all i know is about it is thats its a stuffed rose wood infill with a ebony strike botton and a scroll wedge
design.
the casting (if it is) has a nice shape to toe and heel, was this typical of a certain maker??
where is a faint ???? son stamped on the toe but last owner has over stamped the mark

its 14' long and just under 3' wide, the sole is super thick, the handle is a replacement. and the sole is no 100% flat. i plan on useing this at some point but it needs fixing, i plan to refit infills at a later date next year probably,
any info on it would be great..
if you have any question ill do my best to answer.
i dont care about it as a collectable its to use
let me know what you think and what you would do to it? please.

jimi i need your help
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[tobytools]

... continued

 

[pedder]

Nice plane but the handle part doesn't seem to be original nor comfortable. The handle is leaned back, but it should be leaned forward. And it should be rounded ove much more.

Cheers Pedder

 

[tobytools]

Nice plane but the handle part doesn't seem to be original nor comfortable. The handle is leaned back, but it should be leaned forward. And it should be rounded ove much more.

Cheers Pedder

Thanks pedder, I know it's a replacement I mentioned above but it's surprisingly very comfortable I might disagree after using it for a long period of time but I won't know till then,
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[Cheshirechappie]

Could the obscured maker be 'Mathieson' ? There were several Mathieson factories in various places at various times - Glasgow, Dundee, Liverpool and others.

(That's just a suggestion. There were probably other ????son makers of infills.)

 

[tobytools]

Could the obscured maker be 'Mathieson' ? There were several Mathieson factories in various places at various times - Glasgow, Dundee, Liverpool and others.

(That's just a suggestion. There were probably other ????son makers of infills.)

I wouldn't know, shame the owner did that. The casting looks well done I like the toe and heel design, it's different
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[AndyT]

From the pictures that looks to be in pretty good shape. I like the curved detail at the toe. The fit looks very good on the curved junctions between casting and infill. With the handle all that matters is how it feels in your hands.
No rust or damage to the metal parts.

If I were you I would sharpen the iron with whatever method you prefer, and use it. I would try to get used to it as it is and enjoy it, not rush to change any of it.

The planes that Jimi did such good jobs on were basket cases compared to yours, with bits missing or bits of old scrap. Yours is usable as it is, with its history intact.

 

[tobytools]

From the pictures that looks to be in pretty good shape. I like the curved detail at the toe. The fit looks very good on the curved junctions between casting and infill. With the handle all that matters is how it feels in your hands.
No rust or damage to the metal parts.

If I were you I would sharpen the iron with whatever method you prefer, and use it. I would try to get used to it as it is and enjoy it, not rush to change any of it.

The planes that Jimi did such good jobs on were basket cases compared to yours, with bits missing or bits of old scrap. Yours is usable as it is, with its history intact.

Thanks Andy, I agree. It does feel good in my over sized hands and will sharpen it in the next week. There is a slight bow at the heel of the sole should I flatter it or not bother as it been this way from birth. Ill post the sharpening result soon might do it 2mz. Cheers
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[AndyT]

Not wanting to start over again on how important flattening is or is not, but I would go the easiest way first and use it just as it is (but sharp). Try it in different woods at different depths of cut and find out what it's good for. It might be perfectly usable as it is - so don't waste effort removing good old metal if you don't need to.

 

[Richard T]

For a start, it's an iron casting. All square front and back. The back end has a point. It's an ambitious casting. The infill is Rosewood. All this points to it being not a 'user made' .... a wedge - points to early - something or other.

Ask Bill Carter. Really do - it would interest him I'm sure .

 

[tobytools]

For a start, it's an iron casting. All square front and back. The back end has a point. It's an ambitious casting. The infill is Rosewood. All this points to it being not a 'user made' .... a wedge - points to early - something or other.

Ask Bill Carter. Really do - it would interest him I'm sure .

Andy- all I'm gona do is sharpen it and not wast old metal as you recommend, ill post pics I the shaving of different woods, what's the pitch of this plane or how do I check, rant most infill planes higher that the standard 45.

Richard- thanks for the info, it is ambitious for a casting I agree, I haven't seen one of this design yet,
How do I contact bill carter? Do you have an email or a link?

Thanks everyone.
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[Richard T]

http://www.billcarterwoodworkingplanemaker.co.uk/

I will try to remember to print off some pictures and take them to show him next time we see him. He's had more experience than most with old planes.

If you slide the iron through the mouth you can measure the pitch angle with a protractor between the front of the iron and the sole. I'm guessing it will be 47 1/2 degrees. (English pitch)

 

[tobytools]

http://www.billcarterwoodworkingplanemaker.co.uk/

I will try to remember to print off some pictures and take them to show him next time we see him. He's had more experience than most with old planes.

If you slide the iron through the mouth you can measure the pitch angle with a protractor between the front of the iron and the sole. I'm guessing it will be 47 1/2 degrees. (English pitch)

ive emailed him Richard T, cheers mate. hopefully he can fill in the gaps of knowledge i seriously need and lack
also have to say i drooled over his website for a while
thumbs up
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