My dog, advise needed.

[caretaker]

We had a dog from a rescue center two years ago, lovely old dog except he barked a lot, well his barking got so bad we decided we had to re home him as people that lived nere us was making comments about him.
He would bark from 5 pm to 10 pm at the TV, we tried putting him in the hall but he just carried on, then it got worse, he would bark first light but did not know what at, but I have made a list.
Planes that you could just see the white trail, post man, lorry's, tractors, motor bikes, any machine like lawnmower's, drills, saws, sanders, people walking buy outside of the garden.
We put most of this behaviour down to him being in kennels most of his life.
We would take him for long walks 2 to 3 times every day.
One day we was at our daughters and she could see how my wife was so upset with the barking, so she told us to leave him with her and she will find him a good home.
We reluctantly agreed but said we would not like him to go back in the kennels as he was so unhappy in there.
After four days my daughter phoned us and told us she had found him a nice home with an elderly couple in the country side.
We was please she had found him a nice place to go.
Two days later we was asked to puppy sit my daughters two puppy's at her home, so off we went but what did we find, in her garage was our dogs food and some of his toys.
We asked about our dog's new home and she got agitated and very abrupt with us.
That evening at home I started to look at re homing centers for a new dog for us as we have found it very empty with out our dog and, I found our dog, I could not believe it.
I can not bring my self to tell my wife, and I think I understand my daughter what she has done, but just don't know what to do for the best.

 

[Graham Orm]

That's sad, your daughter must have thought she had done you a favour, maybe she did find him a home but he was brought back for the same reason, and your daughter thought there was no option. I would leave it be, find a new dog and focus on him. Don't tell your wife, and don't hold it against your daughter. At the end of the day you have all tried your best for him.

 

[liam8223]

Probably not what you want to hear, but dogs, like all animals should not be picked up and dropped because of a persons inexperience.
This subject really ruffles my feathers, in my opinion you should never give up on a dog once youve took one on, there are many ways to stop problem barking, rehoming is NOT the answer.
What do you think that poor dog is feeling now??

The mind boggles at some folk...... :roll:

 

[Tinbasher]

I'm with Liam

There were a few other options you could try including getting some expert help in for an opinion.

You are probably right that his life so far is the cause but old dogs can learn new tricks and a little work might make all the difference.

 

[Jacob]

Rescue dogs can be a PITA. We had one for several years who was brilliant when he was good, but bloody nuisance when he wasn't. I was planning to do him in discretely but luckily he died of natural causes first.
There is no answer - you put up with a dysfunctional difficult dog for life, or not.

 

[Gill]

You refused to take responsibility for the future of your own dog so now you must bear the consequences. Stop bemoaning your lot. People like you make me sick.

 

[Jacob]

To be fair to caretaker he probably didn't realise what a liability a recue dog could be.
We certainly didn't. What's more I reckon the collie dog recue centre had sedated him when we went to look at dogs. He started to revive on the journey home and spent the rest of his short but brilliant life waking up!

 

[iNewbie]

Have a look at these links, caretaker:

Cesar 1

Cesar 2

 

[Losos]

Probably not what you want to hear, but dogs, like all animals should not be picked up and dropped because of a persons inexperience.
This subject really ruffles my feathers, in my opinion you should never give up on a dog once youve took one on, there are many ways to stop problem barking, rehoming is NOT the answer.
What do you think that poor dog is feeling now??

The mind boggles at some folk...... :roll:

liam8223 - Oh how much I agree, first, surely every one knows that dogs bark for a reason, I could post the ten 'Dog Barks' on here but I thought every dog owner would have appraised themselves of these before ever getting a dog, secondly as you say rehoming is NOT the answer, thirdly going by the OP there has been some deliberate deceipt going on here and I don't see how brushing it under the table will help, she may be the OP's daughter and she may be an adult but how can doing nothing be the right thing to do :?: It's interesting to compare the dog in this case who would never ever abandon it's owners once bonded with them (which granted can take a little time with rescues) and the humans who are just trying to forget, and what is worse talking of getting another dog, if you have any humanity you don't just trade these creatures in like a worn out Ford Fiesta.

But there is a solution Caretaker can go to the rescue centre and take the dog home, he can tell his wife that they (That means both of them) are going to work on finding out what the dog is trying to tell them when it is barking, they are going to listen to it, and they are going to all three work together to make life better, and if that means a frosty relationship with the daughter then so be it.

 

[andersonec]

Probably not what you want to hear, but dogs, like all animals should not be picked up and dropped because of a persons inexperience.
This subject really ruffles my feathers, in my opinion you should never give up on a dog once youve took one on, there are many ways to stop problem barking, rehoming is NOT the answer.
What do you think that poor dog is feeling now??

The mind boggles at some folk...... :roll:

Dogs cannot think, you really don't think that a dog returned to kennels goes into a fit of depression do you? if you cannot get on with a rescue dog then it must go back, the mans daughter did the right thing, it was unfortunate that he saw it had been returned (to somewhere it could be cared for) had it been given to someone else who could not endure the barking then perhaps it would have not still been alive now.

A family moved in across the road from us a few months ago and brought with them a dog which barks incessantly from dawn till dusk, it is a real PITA and is very very annoying, we live in the country in a hamlet of just a few houses. With the lack of any other ambient noises such as traffic, the barking is very loud and dominates everything during the day, a few of us have spoken to the owner who says there is nothing he can do, it is going to cause problems.

Andy

 

[andersonec]

[/quote]and if that means a frosty relationship with the daughter then so be it.[/quote]

And to advise the chap to drive a wedge between himself and his daughter over a dog, and because she was trying to help her father in a way she saw fit, is totally out of order. He should thank his daughter for solving a problem he could not deal with.

Andy

 

[Dodge]

Folks, this is a very emotive subject, which I appreciate fully from both sides.

Can we be careful that our emotions and views do not result in this thread becoming too contentious please.

Thank you

 

[henton49er]

But there is a solution Caretaker can go to the rescue centre and take the dog home, he can tell his wife that they (That means both of them) are going to work on finding out what the dog is trying to tell them when it is barking, they are going to listen to it, and they are going to all three work together to make life better

I agree entirely with this approach.

My daughter is qualified in animal management and has specialised in canines. She is what I would call a "dog whisperer". She can look at a dog and tell that it has a headache or whatever. She has personally taken on a rescue dog which the animal shelter said was not rehomeable and was going to be put down. After about three months we were able to take the muzzle off this dog, and it has gradually been integrated into our household. Five years down the line, it is the softest, daftest dog you could meet. There are just two things (a) we never touch her when she is asleep (she has obviously been kicked in the past when sleeping) and (b) when the young grandchildren come to our house, the dog is kept in a different room for a few hours (just in case).

Any dog can be brought back from the brink - you need a dog psychologist (joke not, there are plenty around and they do work, if you follow their advice to the letter) and limitless amounts of patience. Re-training behaviour issues is not easy, but plenty of small food bribes is a great help (we use liver cake - a foul smelling concoction of minced liver, flour and egg cooked in the oven and frozen in doggy bite size pieces; they love it).

 

[Lons]

Folks, this is a very emotive subject, which I appreciate fully from both sides.

Can we be careful that our emotions and views do not result in this thread becoming too contentious please.

Thank you

=D> Spot on Dodge - this could turn nasty.

I'm a dog lover and we sorely miss our lab who died a few years ago but I can see both sides. We took on a rescue Irish Setter when first married and he was mental. He'd been tied up all day, every day to a radiator which he pulled off the wall and allowed to jump up and grab peoples wrists. Took us 12 months to sort him out but he lived to 13 and was a beautiful dog.

I couldn't put up with an animal who barked constantly and would have to do something about it but remember it wasn't the OP who put the dog back in a kennels - it was done without his consent or knowledge and I'm sure that his daughter thought it was for the best whether we agree or not.

Just my twopennerth

Bob

 

[Losos]

Folks, this is a very emotive subject, which I appreciate fully from both sides.

Can we be careful that our emotions and views do not result in this thread becoming too contentious please.

Thank you

=D> Spot on Dodge - this could turn nasty.

remember it wasn't the OP who put the dog back in a kennels - it was done without his consent or knowledge and I'm sure that his daughter thought it was for the best whether we agree or not.

Just my twopennerth

Bob

Yes Bob, in defferance to Dodge I'll not say too much but you are right, from the information in the OP something was done with the dog other than what was promised, this is so typical of humans they frequently do things differently to what they promise to do, I'm fed up with so many of them, and it depresses me so much.

If you happen to live in a small hamlet the chances are that a dog will smell all the animals around, our two are frequently barking at deer, foxes, badgers, and God only knows what other creatures that come out at night, none of our neighbours complain because they know this and as country folk they understand.

 

[jimi43]

Annie tried to kiss me the other night and ALFIE growled at her!!!!

Do you think that divorce is too much to ask!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

God...I love that dog!! 8)

(sorry...thought this thread needed lightening up a bit!) :wink:

Jim

 

[mind_the_goat]

There are some very good dog/owner trainers out there, and some not so good, you just have to find them. We found one on the second attempt so were lucky. Start by asking the dog rescue centre, they are likely to have good contacts and most will be very keen to ensure their dogs remain in a stable environment by helping with behaviour issues.

 

[Graham Orm]

It would be handy if Caretaker came on again and updated us.

 

[Lons]

Annie tried to kiss me the other night and ALFIE growled at her!!!!

Do you think that divorce is too much to ask!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

God...I love that dog!! 8)

(sorry...thought this thread needed lightening up a bit!) :wink:

Jim

So which dog trainer did you use to get him to do that? Must be a goodun :wink:

When my missus does that I know she's after something (no smutty remarks please as it's usually something that's going to empty my wallet or overload the credit card). :lol:

Bob

 

[jimi43]

Annie tried to kiss me the other night and ALFIE growled at her!!!!

Do you think that divorce is too much to ask!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

God...I love that dog!! 8)

(sorry...thought this thread needed lightening up a bit!) :wink:

Jim

So which dog trainer did you use to get him to do that? Must be a goodun :wink:

When my missus does that I know she's after something (no smutty remarks please as it's usually something that's going to empty my wallet or overload the credit card). :lol:

Bob

It was the wallet!! :mrgreen:

I once trained my other old dog Jake..(RIP mate) to howl when he heard the Eastenders theme tune!

He was a smart dog too! :mrgreen:

Jim