HELP!!!!!!!!!! Pricing of jobs
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Jez- your a joiner, how have you been pricing up to now?
Marky
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Jez...
Give us a clue on what your'e charging now and you just know we will give our 'two penneth'
Give us a clue on what your'e charging now and you just know we will give our 'two penneth'
well, i trained and passed as a jioner, working in a joinery shop, but im mainly a site fitter, doing joinery at home in my workshop.
just recently fitted, a external front door and frame with two locks and letter box, and i charged £225.
as that was my first main job, i think i was rubbish at pricing it.
just recently fitted, a external front door and frame with two locks and letter box, and i charged £225.
as that was my first main job, i think i was rubbish at pricing it.
ProShop
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Jezz,
Think of a figure, then double it, and never ever tell anyone how you arrived at that figure.
Think of a figure, then double it, and never ever tell anyone how you arrived at that figure.
Marky
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supply and fit....
or just fit...
for fit only, if it took you a day (or part of) a reasonable cost, as long as you have other work or a job for the other days of the week....
This will of course start the threads...
Pub lia insurance, van costs, tax, markup, etc. etc. etc....
You have to look at what you need and can earn and work cost accordingly.
Senior and felderman will probably agree with me, as will many others in regard to 'you charge what the market or the customer' can take.
Marky
or just fit...
for fit only, if it took you a day (or part of) a reasonable cost, as long as you have other work or a job for the other days of the week....
This will of course start the threads...
Pub lia insurance, van costs, tax, markup, etc. etc. etc....
You have to look at what you need and can earn and work cost accordingly.
Senior and felderman will probably agree with me, as will many others in regard to 'you charge what the market or the customer' can take.
Marky
no, that was my price to fit, was done on a weekend, as i have a full time job with a joinery shop, and im there onsite joinery fitter
im currently trying to create a price list for vaies jobs ie, doors, frame,
so i then have a better ideal price to go on, plus profit on top of that price.
also, when you fit a job, do you add profit on to materials, ie, gfripfill from ur builging merchant is 1.90 where as b&q is £2.50,
do you make it to ur gaing buy getting them cheap the add abit etxra on for profit.
im currently trying to create a price list for vaies jobs ie, doors, frame,
so i then have a better ideal price to go on, plus profit on top of that price.
also, when you fit a job, do you add profit on to materials, ie, gfripfill from ur builging merchant is 1.90 where as b&q is £2.50,
do you make it to ur gaing buy getting them cheap the add abit etxra on for profit.
Marky
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I suppose the question is then...
Are you happy working on a saturday for £225.00
With the other job, you probably are, although I would still get PL Insurance for your own protection....
You have to look at almost any job worth doing for the public will take whole days, so fitting a couple of internal doors and say doing some locks etc, will still take a day.
You can never do anything else with it so 'it's probably worth charging a day' for.
But having said that you only do it in your free time (at the moment) so if your'e happy and the punters happy, the world will continue to turn.
Are you happy working on a saturday for £225.00
With the other job, you probably are, although I would still get PL Insurance for your own protection....
You have to look at almost any job worth doing for the public will take whole days, so fitting a couple of internal doors and say doing some locks etc, will still take a day.
You can never do anything else with it so 'it's probably worth charging a day' for.
But having said that you only do it in your free time (at the moment) so if your'e happy and the punters happy, the world will continue to turn.
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My point would be do you have public liability and if you don't what would you do if you hit a water pipe or worse.
If this is top up money to your joinery job, why be greedy. If this is going to be your main income, then high prices have to be backed up with quality work.
This whole subject is very complex, but felderman has sussed how I price somehow
If this is top up money to your joinery job, why be greedy. If this is going to be your main income, then high prices have to be backed up with quality work.
This whole subject is very complex, but felderman has sussed how I price somehow
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break the bid down into sections.
hrs to design
hrs to manufacture.
hrs to apply finish ect.
hrs to install.
hrs to gather materials.
hrs spent deliveries.
hrs spent doing bid.
add these up for total hrs.
then materials costs.
add these up(including glues,screws ect)
then seperate to this is the overheads,
premises rent ect
van/transport.
machines/tools.
insurance's
these should be a yearly total broken down into weekly/monthly segments.
your wages +overheads added together for hourly rate,
multiply hr rate x estimated hrs,+materials,+ a profit% say 5-12%,then add taxes.
this is the simple version,it can be far more complicated.
its easier to think in days rather than hrs--so think half,third,3qrtrs,full day,2 days ect,--then convert to hrs.
shivers.
hrs to design
hrs to manufacture.
hrs to apply finish ect.
hrs to install.
hrs to gather materials.
hrs spent deliveries.
hrs spent doing bid.
add these up for total hrs.
then materials costs.
add these up(including glues,screws ect)
then seperate to this is the overheads,
premises rent ect
van/transport.
machines/tools.
insurance's
these should be a yearly total broken down into weekly/monthly segments.
your wages +overheads added together for hourly rate,
multiply hr rate x estimated hrs,+materials,+ a profit% say 5-12%,then add taxes.
this is the simple version,it can be far more complicated.
its easier to think in days rather than hrs--so think half,third,3qrtrs,full day,2 days ect,--then convert to hrs.
shivers.
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Blimey Shivers, i'd spend more time working out the cost of the job than making it.
Shivers
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senior":vybtp36g said:
i know iknow,but once you have your overheads converted they are usually a constant no need to do them the next time.,everything else is hours/materials.
quick breakdown is
constant overheads (divided by 2080 hrs/result then multiplied x job hrs) +job hours (wages & profit %)+materials + taxes.
Marky
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I suggest that Jez spends saturday working out his prices.....
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Marky
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Yeah, that would be a poblem
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