I've been using water based wood stain for some toys for the Grandkids. All good but I do have problems with glue then showing through the stain at joints. Is there a good wood glue that will stain? The same goes for Danish oil. Suggestions most welcome.
Glue advice
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Phil Pascoe
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Stain (and polish?) the parts before assembly and wipe off surplus glue afterwards?
rafezetter
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Other methods if you can't pre-treat are:
wet sponge it off immediately (but i'll be honest a few times that's not been 100% effective for me as some glue still got into the grain)
Let the glue set hard, then gently scrape off with a chisel, paintscraper, stanley blade at low angle
line the mating surface edges with masking tape so any squeeze out goes onto that instead, good for veneers and the like whereby scraping may cut through it, and wiping wet might raise the grain too much.
Other glues may require different approach - resin based (cascamite) should be wet wiped off right away as it sets hard and is a bugger to scrape off.
Poly based expanding / foaming glue (dark brown clear stuff looks like treacle) - LET IT SET!!! long as you can leave it and scrape or do the lining method - if you try to wipe off you'll be sorry; if you aren't sure if it's set just lightly touch it, if it bounces it's still gloopy and will make a helluva mess. (and wear gloves or you'll have black marks on your hands for days!)
another handy tip is cascamite powdered resin glue can be dyed with powders / colour crystals so it doesn't show up half as much if some goes where it shouldn't.
oh and you could try mixing some of the waterbased stain in a small pot with the glue and brush on joints, that would probably do the same as the cascamite dye trick.
hope that helps
wet sponge it off immediately (but i'll be honest a few times that's not been 100% effective for me as some glue still got into the grain)
Let the glue set hard, then gently scrape off with a chisel, paintscraper, stanley blade at low angle
line the mating surface edges with masking tape so any squeeze out goes onto that instead, good for veneers and the like whereby scraping may cut through it, and wiping wet might raise the grain too much.
Other glues may require different approach - resin based (cascamite) should be wet wiped off right away as it sets hard and is a bugger to scrape off.
Poly based expanding / foaming glue (dark brown clear stuff looks like treacle) - LET IT SET!!! long as you can leave it and scrape or do the lining method - if you try to wipe off you'll be sorry; if you aren't sure if it's set just lightly touch it, if it bounces it's still gloopy and will make a helluva mess. (and wear gloves or you'll have black marks on your hands for days!)
another handy tip is cascamite powdered resin glue can be dyed with powders / colour crystals so it doesn't show up half as much if some goes where it shouldn't.
oh and you could try mixing some of the waterbased stain in a small pot with the glue and brush on joints, that would probably do the same as the cascamite dye trick.
hope that helps
some good tips there thanks I thought I had cleaned off all excess glue but when it came to sanding it started to ball up on the paper even though I couldn't see it. Then when I thought I had cleaned it all off after sanding, it came back to bite me when I stained. The stain is water based but the glue isn't (it's PVA). I might get some water based pva and see if I can tint it. It would normally be ok but I'm cutting quite fine pieces and it's hard to get in all the cracks properly .. but thanks for the help .. all advice most welcome
I thought I had cleaned off all excess glue but when it came to sanding it started to ball up on the paper even though I couldn't see it. Then when I thought I had cleaned it all off after sanding, it came back to bite me when I stained. The stain is water based but the glue isn't (it's PVA). I might get some water based pva and see if I can tint it. It would normally be ok but I'm cutting quite fine pieces and it's hard to get in all the cracks properly .. but thanks for the help .. all advice most welcome
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
I think you'll find all PVA is water based, but whether it would tint is another thing.
jimmybigfoot
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Titebond do a fluorescent glue which you can see where it is when you think you've gotten rid of it.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/titebond-*** ... rod782518/
http://www.axminster.co.uk/titebond-*** ... rod782518/
rafezetter
Troll Hunter
jimmybigfoot":3e48jbz6 said:
heh they think of everything....
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