Conservatory

[SteveF]

anyone built their own with a solid roof?
have an existing but pitch is a bit shallow for solid roof

Steve

 

[skipdiver]

I've done a fair few conservatories and sunrooms in my time but roof replacement only started getting popular as i was leaving the industry, so although i know a bit, i'm not au fait with what's on the market nowadays. What have you got in mind?

 

[Roughcut]

I haven't got a clue of the practical side of doing one.
But I do know someone that has had a solid roof put onto their conservatory by a specialist company and they seem pleased with it.
It was well insulated as part of the process and has made a big difference in easily keeping it warm and cosy inside apparently.

 

[kevinlightfoot]

I'm interested in this thread ,does anyone know the approx cost of replacing a Perspex style roof with a solid one?

 

[SteveF]

i had a quote today
my conservatory is very approx 2.4m x 4m
total cost was £7.5k
accoya fitted on top of roof bars
osb on top
35mm celotex above
battons above that
plastic tiles on top
below was a vapour membrane
more 35mm celotex
air gap
TRISO-SUPER 10+ Actis foil sheet below that
plasterboarded

but apparently the roof slope was not enough so was a cost on top of that

for that sort of money i wondered if i could do myself with some "shared" skilled labour
even if it means starting from ground level and re-using the glazing

Steve

 

[RobinBHM]

It is a sales driven sector so the costs do include regional surveyors, salesmen, marketing, install team etc.

It has become popular because buildings regulations no longer specify what constitutes a conservatory and so it is possible to make a solid roof conservatory and still be able to be an exempt structure.

It isnt rocket science really, the tiles can be bought and the rest is really a conventional roof, ie celetex, osb board, plasterboard etc.

Some people have some parts still glass.

 

[SteveF]

I understand the costs involved
just wonder how much pain would be involved if I diy
and if there would be much saving

Steve

 

[RobinBHM]

I dont know if this company are any good, it looks like they do a kit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TILED-CONSERV ... SwYHxWKj1l

If I was guessing at what's involved, I would say 5-7 days for 2 people, say £2.5K labour then £3k for materials

 

[skipdiver]

7.5k seems extortionate to me. Could easily do it yourself for half that or less. Some people just leave the polycarb roof in situ and underclad it but that can lead to condensation problems if you get it wrong. I know of a plasterer who earns a very good living doing just that.

 

[ColeyS1]

7.5k seems extortionate to me. Could easily do it yourself for half that or less. Some people just leave the polycarb roof in situ and underclad it but that can lead to condensation problems if you get it wrong. I know of a plasterer who earns a very good living doing just that.

Sounds like steve has found someone willing to do the job !! even allowing traveling and fitting, if you can do it for slightly more than half, he's still saving. Good on ya, hope you get the job

Coley

 

[llangatwgnedd]

I have had my fifteen year old conservatory roof done back in June

https://flic.kr/p/PgqeHy

All the aluminium struts and wall plate was replaced with new and the roof was lifted up two inches then osb screwed down.

https://flic.kr/p/PjzDXP

35mm insulation was inserted between the struts and taped

https://flic.kr/p/P71tzE

battens then screwed to the struts and more insulation between the battens
and plasterboard with insulation.


https://flic.kr/p/PgqCpq

View outside

https://flic.kr/p/P71N6Y

Ceiling skimmed

https://flic.kr/p/PjAn6v

So much difference , don't hear the rain anymore, cool in the summer and certainly warmer with heating on

https://flic.kr/p/PjAq3T

 

[SteveF]

Looks a tidy job
how much may I ask ?
don't worry if you would rather not say

Steve

 

[llangatwgnedd]

Hi Steve, its a Guardian roof system I had.

https://www.guardianroof.co.uk/wp-conte ... ardian.mp4

The firm that originally built the conservatory are the main contractors for Guardian Roof, South Wales.

It measures 10'x16' and cost £8,000.

 

[llangatwgnedd]

even if it means starting from ground level and re-using the glazing

If you look to the left, my neighbour built up on the dwarf walls and had a cut roof done.

https://flic.kr/p/P71N6Y

 

[Jasper42]

Hello, been reading but my first bit of input.

I did a diy job on mine about 3 years ago, left the outside as it was. Just did a layer of battery's for an air gap, layered foil insulation which kept the heat in/out and was the vaper barrier, second run of batterns (air gap) then plaster board.

Foil insulation was about £300 the rest was lose change. Cooler in the summer, keeps the heat in during the winter and now looks like it is part of the house. Her was very happy once I cleaned up my mess.

Got the idea from looking at one of those companies that charge £8k on line, they had a stage by stage photo show of the whole process. Ever got the name for the foil insulation from it.
Hope this helps.

 

[SteveF]

have to say that is a tempting route to take
even thought of fitting osb across existing frame on outside and have an edpm put on top
I have plenty of height so could put celotex below original roof in between battens
just want it a bit quieter in the rain
and to keep the chill off
we use as dining room regulary and it has a radiator

Steve

 

[skipdiver]

7.5k seems extortionate to me. Could easily do it yourself for half that or less. Some people just leave the polycarb roof in situ and underclad it but that can lead to condensation problems if you get it wrong. I know of a plasterer who earns a very good living doing just that.

Sounds like steve has found someone willing to do the job !! even allowing traveling and fitting, if you can do it for slightly more than half, he's still saving. Good on ya, hope you get the job

Coley

Ha! I know him but not sure i would recommend him. He was a plasterer and now he has has gone into conservatory roof insulating, even has a website called climate control or something. I suspect he was plastering them for other builders and thought "that looks easy, think i'll have a go". It seems to be the latest "thing" to have your conny roof done and people are cashing in on it. It's really not that difficult to do yourself for a fraction of what companies are charging.

 

[SteveF]

I have to wonder if we all think we can do things cheaper ourselves rather than use the skilled artisans
but then are they the experts because they have a company name?
and get paid for it

there was a time when everyone called a tradesmen in to fit a power outlet or move a radiator
sometimes you do have to step back and call the experts
I am, what I would classify as fairly competent to have a go at most things
I built my shed and then extended it,wired it, I have made a few things, but never know when to back off and call in help

Steve

 

[skipdiver]

I have to wonder if we all think we can do things cheaper ourselves rather than use the skilled artisans
but then are they the experts because they have a company name?
and get paid for it

there was a time when everyone called a tradesmen in to fit a power outlet or move a radiator
sometimes you do have to step back and call the experts
I am, what I would classify as fairly competent to have a go at most things
I built my shed and then extended it,wired it, I have made a few things, but never know when to back off and call in help

Steve

Well i'm speaking as someone who worked as a joiner/builder all my life, so it would be relatively easy for me. I used to subby to my mate who owned a double glazing company and did many a conservatory and sunroom for him when he got really busy. My nephew still works there and is basically a window fitter with no other skills and he does these roof jobs on weekends as barrow jobs with his mate, so it can't be that hard to do. My mates company have also started to do them but i was retiring from the building game as they were coming into popularity, so i never got to do any. I think with a bit of internet research, you could do it quite easily if you are fairly competent. I'll ring my nephew tomorrow and ask him what the crack is.

 

[merlin]

Hello Steve,

I made this a few years ago with a solid roof...

The ridge beam went into the house wall one end and on top of the gable frame the other.

Merlin