Hi all you forum users ,
I would like to say / ask / be enlightened on some forum points
The forum consist of 10 different sections as we all know
Each has a different use / benefit to forum members
If I am stuck and ask for advice , I am inviting comments to be made and am greatfull when I get a answer to a question or pointed in the correct direction for a item I am looking for , Its a two way thing , I am helped or I help others , all great everyone is happy .
I have been a member since 2006 , so not as long as other members , I realize I don't know it all and only comment on the turning section as I do know a little about this.
I have over the years invited people to spend the day in my workshop , the members who attended include , DaveL , Wizer , and John B , I know 2 of them have now obtained lathes of there own and JohnB was already a competent turner capable of high quality items , So hopefully I have contributed to the forum
I was absent from the forum for about a year , due to the failing health and the eventual passing of my father , who I was very close with , and member for 2 years ago will recall I was involved in a motorcycle accident 10 day before my father passed away ( the accident happened when I was on my way to visit dad ) I ended up admitted into the same hospital , was unable to work for 10 weeks , and It took 15 months for me to recover
I started out with what I thought was a good lathe , Draper :roll: and was nearly put off completely , I then saw a add in the Woodturner mag for a complete workshop , went to see it in Norwich made a offer and purchased everything , so I ended up with a better lathe / tools / wood / extractor etc etc etc , and I have done it a further 4 times working my way up to a VB , I enjoy doing it , to me its fun , an interest related to my hobby
Did I need everything ? No , so what do you do ? keep it all ? or offer the items you don't need to other forum users , thinking you are helping out by offering items at what I consider to be fair prices ?
So for sale items are put in the relevant sections on the forum and most items are purchased by forum users and they are ALL happy . I have not had one complaint in 4 years , and if I was ever to have a complaint I would refund the full amount back to the person who was not happy
I don't like being ripped off or told something is spot on only to find its rubbish . And I would never put anything up for sale knowing it was sub standard or faulty , so I would never rip anyone off !
Since the latest complaints regarding me on the forum have come to light , as they do often I cant understand what I am doing wrong ?
In my last 2 for sale listing , I started by saying ( This is a for sale thread / not a general conversation post
any questions please PM or ring me on 07968 109261 Thanks )
The reason is as follows
1, It is a item for sale ( not a request for help or advice )
2, it is a used item
3, It is offered for sale at a price I am prepared to let it go for
4, I always post a good selection of photos showing as much detail as possible
5, and I always give a honest description of the item
6, I am willing to show the item if anyone wants to see it ,
7, I will offer to pack it and post it if needed
Have I done anything wrong yet ?
So the item is posted on the forum , take for example the kerrys cast iron drill with a new motor £200
Then along come a forum member who post a comment ( if you hang around on ebay long enough you can get one for £30 )
Does this show any interest in the item for sale ?
Is it a question regarding the condition or operation of the drill ?
Is it a comment saying " cracking drill that I have one "
Is it a comment saying " Is this the drill that suffers from X Y Z , you may want to check to see if it has XYZ ?
Has this comment helped anyone ?
I fail to see how the comment does anything other that derail the thread
An I wrong in thinking this ? or is it a constructive comment ?
As other forum users have already said " I would do my homework first to check out the prices " I assume we are all adults on here or are children on the forum who need advising ?
Other forum members have had problems also and one has removed the item from sale on the forum due to comments not related to the item for sale
So is it " OPEN SEASON " on all for sale posts , can anyone jump in head first and say anything they like regardless of whether it relevant or not ?
If it is open season on all posts please let me know
I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB like most of you . I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL DEALER but do offer items to other members , Is that profiteering ? Is it taking advantage of other forum users ?
No one HAS to buy anything , and will only do so if they WANT to
I don't force anyone !
I have had numerous PMs sent to me regarding this saying take no notice , but I do take notice
I am not out to offend anyone
I have asked last time this reared up , " Do you want me to stop selling " and put up a post so members could vote , result was a whopping NO , Don't stop , 186 - 2 .
Again I will ask if any forum moderators read this
Please let me know if I am doing wrong ?
I have interests outside of wood turning and do go on other forums . one I go on ( nothing to do with wood ) has a for sale section . a wanted section and some rules regarding the use , one rule is this :-
Not involved? DO NOT POST : You may only reply to a thread if you wish to buy, sell, or trade. If you are not involved then DO NOT POST.
I do however think a For sale / Wanted section would be a benefit to the forum , As we are allowed to post items for sale , so for the members who DON'T want to see For Sale listing in all the different section of the forum like Stevsbuk ( please forgive me here but, i for one am sick of seeing adverts all over this forum , and now we have links from one section to another section and this is blatant spamming and i think it should be stopped )
If the forum did have a For Sale section , Steve would have the option NOT to see any For Sale listings
Any forum member can list items for sale not only me ! , so why not join in , I may even need what you are selling !
If you are still awake and have read to the end then well done
Thanks for reading
Blister
I would like to say / ask / be enlightened on some forum points
The forum consist of 10 different sections as we all know
Each has a different use / benefit to forum members
If I am stuck and ask for advice , I am inviting comments to be made and am greatfull when I get a answer to a question or pointed in the correct direction for a item I am looking for , Its a two way thing , I am helped or I help others , all great everyone is happy .
I have been a member since 2006 , so not as long as other members , I realize I don't know it all and only comment on the turning section as I do know a little about this.
I have over the years invited people to spend the day in my workshop , the members who attended include , DaveL , Wizer , and John B , I know 2 of them have now obtained lathes of there own and JohnB was already a competent turner capable of high quality items , So hopefully I have contributed to the forum
I was absent from the forum for about a year , due to the failing health and the eventual passing of my father , who I was very close with , and member for 2 years ago will recall I was involved in a motorcycle accident 10 day before my father passed away ( the accident happened when I was on my way to visit dad ) I ended up admitted into the same hospital , was unable to work for 10 weeks , and It took 15 months for me to recover
I started out with what I thought was a good lathe , Draper :roll: and was nearly put off completely , I then saw a add in the Woodturner mag for a complete workshop , went to see it in Norwich made a offer and purchased everything , so I ended up with a better lathe / tools / wood / extractor etc etc etc , and I have done it a further 4 times working my way up to a VB , I enjoy doing it , to me its fun , an interest related to my hobby
Did I need everything ? No , so what do you do ? keep it all ? or offer the items you don't need to other forum users , thinking you are helping out by offering items at what I consider to be fair prices ?
So for sale items are put in the relevant sections on the forum and most items are purchased by forum users and they are ALL happy . I have not had one complaint in 4 years , and if I was ever to have a complaint I would refund the full amount back to the person who was not happy
I don't like being ripped off or told something is spot on only to find its rubbish . And I would never put anything up for sale knowing it was sub standard or faulty , so I would never rip anyone off !
Since the latest complaints regarding me on the forum have come to light , as they do often I cant understand what I am doing wrong ?
In my last 2 for sale listing , I started by saying ( This is a for sale thread / not a general conversation post
any questions please PM or ring me on 07968 109261 Thanks )
The reason is as follows
1, It is a item for sale ( not a request for help or advice )
2, it is a used item
3, It is offered for sale at a price I am prepared to let it go for
4, I always post a good selection of photos showing as much detail as possible
5, and I always give a honest description of the item
6, I am willing to show the item if anyone wants to see it ,
7, I will offer to pack it and post it if needed
Have I done anything wrong yet ?
So the item is posted on the forum , take for example the kerrys cast iron drill with a new motor £200
Then along come a forum member who post a comment ( if you hang around on ebay long enough you can get one for £30 )
Does this show any interest in the item for sale ?
Is it a question regarding the condition or operation of the drill ?
Is it a comment saying " cracking drill that I have one "
Is it a comment saying " Is this the drill that suffers from X Y Z , you may want to check to see if it has XYZ ?
Has this comment helped anyone ?
I fail to see how the comment does anything other that derail the thread
An I wrong in thinking this ? or is it a constructive comment ?
As other forum users have already said " I would do my homework first to check out the prices " I assume we are all adults on here or are children on the forum who need advising ?
Other forum members have had problems also and one has removed the item from sale on the forum due to comments not related to the item for sale
So is it " OPEN SEASON " on all for sale posts , can anyone jump in head first and say anything they like regardless of whether it relevant or not ?
If it is open season on all posts please let me know
I HAVE A FULL TIME JOB like most of you . I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL DEALER but do offer items to other members , Is that profiteering ? Is it taking advantage of other forum users ?
No one HAS to buy anything , and will only do so if they WANT to
I don't force anyone !
I have had numerous PMs sent to me regarding this saying take no notice , but I do take notice
I am not out to offend anyone
I have asked last time this reared up , " Do you want me to stop selling " and put up a post so members could vote , result was a whopping NO , Don't stop , 186 - 2 .
Again I will ask if any forum moderators read this
Please let me know if I am doing wrong ?
I have interests outside of wood turning and do go on other forums . one I go on ( nothing to do with wood ) has a for sale section . a wanted section and some rules regarding the use , one rule is this :-
Not involved? DO NOT POST : You may only reply to a thread if you wish to buy, sell, or trade. If you are not involved then DO NOT POST.
I do however think a For sale / Wanted section would be a benefit to the forum , As we are allowed to post items for sale , so for the members who DON'T want to see For Sale listing in all the different section of the forum like Stevsbuk ( please forgive me here but, i for one am sick of seeing adverts all over this forum , and now we have links from one section to another section and this is blatant spamming and i think it should be stopped )
If the forum did have a For Sale section , Steve would have the option NOT to see any For Sale listings
Any forum member can list items for sale not only me ! , so why not join in , I may even need what you are selling !
If you are still awake and have read to the end then well done
Thanks for reading
Blister