Windows 7 RC

[Argee]

Anyone trying Windows 7 RC yet? I'm downloading it as I type, but if you've had any horrendous experiences with it, please share them with me!

Ray

 

[brianhabby]

Not used it myself but I've spoken to a couple of people who seem to think it works just fine. There was a piece in the BBC's Click program the other day which you might find interesting

 

[13eightyfour]

Ive got the 64bit version on both my lappy and my main rig, and have had it since it was released and its great, no problems at all. Saying that i never had any problems with vista 64 , everything ive got is supported but ive a few mates that have had issues on older hardware. The only thing i dont like about it is the search function but thats a personal thing really.

My lappys even gained an extra 20 or so minutes of battery life on 7 over vista Ultimate 64, which can only be classed as a good thing.

Ill be buying a copy on full release, even though its rumoured to be more expensive than all previous versions of windows.

 

[slemishwoodcrafts]

forget all about windows!!!

Buy a Mac. They are the way forwards!!

No viruses, doesn't crash and far more reliable than a windows computer.


michael on a macbook

 

[kityuser]

I refuse to consider using an operating system that has an unwritten requirement for gigs of ram just to run properly. I`m sorry but a 2 gig ram requirement for vista is just insane, what the hell is the OS DOING with all that ram??????

I understand 7 is a bit less ram hungry, and even though hardware is now cheap it disgusts me that MS can bang out code that is SO inefficient.

I want my OS to consume the minimum of ram and not sit there burning CPU cycles doing sweet FA.

It makes me laugh, re-issue an OS rehash of vista AKA what vista SHOULD have been, make everything look more pretty AKA everyone needs a graphics card upgrade and a few more CPU cores....... all for what? you still need £££ worth of anti-virus code burning up all those lovely MIPS you just invested in with your new oct-core CPU, 1KW PSU and your computer now produces 500BTU of heat........
..... but at least all the windows look transparent oooooohhhhhh....... aaaahhhhhhhh


rant over... sorry

free software all the way...

Steve

 

[13eightyfour]

My main rig cost less than £500 including a 22" monitor its got 4 gig of ram, 2.5ghz c2d which is actually running at 3.6, a 4870 gpu and 1Tb of harddrive space. and it ran/runs both vista and windows 7 just fine. You dont need to spend a fortune to get an incredibly fast computer. I will agree that free software is the way forward, nearly everything on my comps is free, with the exception of windows and adobe cs3 collection.

 

[kafkaian]

I'm a Debian Linux/Unix man so would never, ever contemplate Windows and its "corporateness". I'm managing to convert more and more people over to the Ubuntu and Mint flavours - enabling a modicum of self-sufficiency in the process. Marvellous! Kity's done my rant for me.

 

[brianhabby]

Why is it that everytime someone mentions Windows computing there are always those that have to have the Mac Rant.

To Op asked for peoples' opinion on the new Windows 7 - that's all

regards

Brian

 

[kityuser]

Why is it that everytime someone mentions Windows computing there are always those that have to have the Mac Rant.

To Op asked for peoples' opinion on the new Windows 7 - that's all

regards

Brian

Who mentioned mac? Not me

In reply to the op:

Windoz 7 is fine bloatware for a supercomputer, I agree super computers are cheap these days, guess the skill in ms os design these days is flashy eye candy and how to fill x gigs of ram rather than optimized performance on minimal hardware.

In summary:
Mac - previous gen hardware at twice the price, rock solid os
Windoz - how to waste kwatts of power making an insecure os look pretty, mainly for playing games or word/excel
Linux - limited support, but free , used to need low level understanding of how computers work , getting better/easier to use. Don't always have full hardware accelerated support due to manufacturers lack of cooperatio , again getting better
Solaris - good pros os

Pick your poison

Steve
Pick your poison....

 

[kafkaian]

Why is it that everytime someone mentions Windows computing there are always those that have to have the Mac Rant.

Perhaps it's because some of us just want to spread the "Good News" as we see it. But you're right. Gob shut in future, lest we upset the Windows set.

In summary:
Linux - limited support, but free , used to need low level understanding of how computers work , getting better/easier to use. Don't always have full hardware accelerated support due to manufacturers lack of cooperatio , again getting better

Traditionally I've always had to pick my hardware wisely, but even when using two to three year old technology that has the backup, I found performance to be far superior to that of MS Bloatware running with the latest dongles, bells and whistles. I'm not a gamer so am not worried about "missing out" with what the proprietary stuff has to offer...and I like to be in control. But if people are happy to be dictated to in terms of functionality and finances then that's fine by me too.

 

[kityuser]

Why is it that everytime someone mentions Windows computing there are always those that have to have the Mac Rant.

Perhaps it's because some of us just want to spread the "Good News" as we see it. But you're right. Gob shut in future, lest we upset the Windows set.

In summary:
Linux - limited support, but free , used to need low level understanding of how computers work , getting better/easier to use. Don't always have full hardware accelerated support due to manufacturers lack of cooperatio , again getting better

Traditionally I've always had to pick my hardware wisely, but even when using two to three year old technology that has the backup, I found performance to be far superior to that of MS Bloatware running with the latest dongles, bells and whistles. I'm not a gamer so am not worried about "missing out" with what the proprietary stuff has to offer...and I like to be in control. But if people are happy to be dictated to in terms of functionality and finances then that's fine by me too.

I've experience with most os's, not an expert by a long shot, but got some mileage with most.

ALL have problems, and issues. Sadly the proliferation of MS means we are stuck with it. I'm sure most will rush to upgrade to windoz 7 but for what reason, what do they gain? according to the BBC the list is "live search, backgrounds and an encrypted drive.... oh and a virtual xp if your programme won't run natively" oohhh sounds great! *grinz*

all rip offs from other os's.........

sad, very sad.

why MUST we upgrade os every 3 years?

Steve

 

[Argee]

To Op asked for peoples' opinion on the new Windows 7 - that's all

Brian, I asked for knowledge of "any horrendous experiences," which I thought suggested personal experience, not opinions, but I understand your point about Windows gainsayers in general.

The one actual (two-part) response to this request was positive. I've downloaded and installed it on a separate hard drive, so if I find it at all unacceptable, I'll retain my existing Windows Vista Ultimate setup.

So far, I've been impressed that the download recognised my Vista version and gave me the top-end Windows 7 Ultimate version to try. This seems like a positive step, to me at least. The front end has an improvement or two over Windows Vista, but until I've loaded up some applications, my experience is, so far, a bit limited.

Incidentally, I've taken a long, hard look at Macs in the recent past, but I couldn't justify the pricing, or the limited range of software. I need a LightScribe DVD/CDROM drive - not supported by Apple. I looked at the iMac - beautiful screen, but impossible to upgrade in any meaningful way. The tower units are upgradeable to a larger extent, but are overpriced for me.

Other free OS' are gaining popularity now, but that's probably because both they and Macs can now run Windows (in a virtual PC window, AIUI). My use is probably slightly more specialised, requiring a setup which I've evolved over a few years and which I've tailored to meet my needs. I haven't seen a blue screen since I built a machine to run Windows 2000. I've got a very large investment in PC software, so changing my operating platform simply doesn't make sense to me. I've heard tales such as "everything you need comes with the OS," but - not surprisingly - that's not true and I doubt, for me, that it ever will be.

I wasn't seeking to provoke a PC/Mac "debate" again, as should have been apparent. I think I've made my position clear now, so I'll bow out, with thanks to the contributors.

Ray.

 

[kityuser]

To Op asked for peoples' opinion on the new Windows 7 - that's all

Incidentally, I've taken a long, hard look at Macs in the recent past, but I couldn't justify the pricing, or the limited range of software. I need a LightScribe DVD/CDROM drive - not supported by Apple. I looked at the iMac - beautiful screen, but impossible to upgrade in any meaningful way. The tower units are upgradeable to a larger extent, but are overpriced for me.

Ray.

not quite accurate that:
http://www.lacie.com/more/?id=10016

limited range of software?

it sounds like you could probably satisfy all your (windoz) needs running a virtual machine, and look at the bright side, you get a REALLY easy system to backup by simply copying the disk images (known as taking snapshots in vmware).
that allows both macs and linux distros.
virtualbox from sun is free for all platforms including mac osx......

I`ve been involved with both Vista and the recent RC of 7 evaluation at work. Both have been turned down in favour of keeping the current role out of XP (for laptop and desktop users.) Main reasons were hardware requirements and question marks over legacy hardware and programmes (some REALLY old dos stuff).

I have no direct home useage experience with windoz 7 , sorry if I jumped in a bit quick with my assumptions, but I supose if you need the "new" live search, encrypted hard drive, new desktop images, or run an xp virtual machine for unsupported programmes then it sounds ideal.

my current virtual machine build of xp pro is the most stable I`ve used. 4 years and going strong!!!!!!!!

steve