Wall mounted extractor for planer thicknesser

[cpmczak]

Hi

I'm setting up a small workshop in my garage. Was lucky enough to pick up an Axminster AT310SPT planer thicknesser second hand for a decent price. I'm looking at chip extraction options now. Ideally I want something that is wall-mounted as space is at a premium and obviously at a reasonable cost, such as:

Axminster Craft AC37E 1HP Extractor

This extractor can be used in small home workshops for common wood machining tasks where a higher airflow than provided by a vacuum extractor is required. The quiet running induction motor provides plenty of power to extract from many small workshop...

www.axminstertools.com

Axminster Trade AT50E 1HP Extractor

This is a rather neat concept, a wall mounted extractor perfectly suited to small workshops, woodturners or for connecting to a stand-alone machine. Well made and efficient, its 1hp motor generates 1,000m&#179/hr of airflow and is fitted with a 1...

www.axminstertools.com

However, Axminster customer service are saying I need one with minimum flow rate of 1500m3/hour, so something like this:

Axminster Trade AT170E 2HP Extractor

A thoroughly modern design of mobile dust extractor with a cartridge filter included as standard. The excellent performance comes from careful matching of the motor, impeller and housing, resulting in an efficient machine able to extract chips and...

www.axminstertools.com

I'm not exactly enamoured with the reviews, size or price of that one though. So I was just wondering if anyone has experience of using a planer thicknesser with these smaller wall mounted extractors? Or any other suggestions for suitable extractors (it doesn't have to be Axminster brand)?

Thanks.

 

[doctor Bob]

Flow is everything on planers, if you don't have enough suck it will bung up.

 

[Sideways]

Keep your eyes open for a secondhand wall mounted P&J dust extractor on ebay.
It might take a while to find one but it will be better built.
I used a cheap Record chip collector (plastic casing, stands on a single pole with a office chair like castor unit on the bottom) on a 10x8" planer thicknesser but that didn't have a fine filter to slow it down and it leaked fine dust everywhere. Not recommended and long gone. Bigger is better with these things and most vendors quoted airflows are very optimistic (50 to 100% better than you'll achieve in real world use).
If you can put it in a lean-to against the outside of your workshop that will spare you noise, save space and make sure any escaping dust is outside your workspace. It would also let you get away with a cheaper chip collector type with a bag filter. Replacement cartridge filters aren't too cheap.
DrBob is bang on - nothing makes chips like a planer and you need that airflow to keep them clear or your feed rollers will end up mashing chips into the surface of your stock.

 

[cpmczak]

Flow is everything on planers, if you don't have enough suck it will bung up.

Thanks. Looking at some other related threads currently, the Charnwood W685 gets mentioned a lot.

Wall Mounted Dust Extractor

www.charnwood.net

Somebody mentioned they used it fine with their 260PT. Mind you, it has a flow rate of 850m3/hour whereas the Axminster AT50E has a 1000m3/hour flow rate. The freestanding Axminster one that they have recommended to me has 1200 flow rate, which is only 20% more. Not convinced that's worth the extra £320 and the fact it would take up valuable floor space.

Anyway, happy to hear any other thoughts and opinions.

 

[Inspector]

Something to keep in mind. A 4"/100mm duct can only flow 400cfm/680m3/hour. I suggest you spend a few hours a night for a week reading Bill Pentz's site to get a better understanding of dust collection.

Dust Collection Research - Home

This site is all about dust collection and protection. It shares the risks from fine dust exposure, how to measure your risks and how to effectively protect yourself and those close to you from airborne dust hazards. Fine dust is so extensively studied that researchers call it PM short for...

billpentz.com

Pete

 

[cpmczak]

Update which I hope will help others. I opted for the Axminster Craft AC37E extractor in the end. I've wall mounted it with a 4m hose. Put a fairly rough piece of timber over the planer several times and the extractor has coped admirably. No clogging whatsoever. Nice quiet machine too and love the fact it's wall mounted. The only negative, which has been mentioned in other reviews, is the bags supplied have no zip on them so it makes it quite difficult to empty them through the 100mm neck opening. Overall, really pleased with it though.

 

[gmgmgm]

If you get any vibrations through the wall mounting, then the Polymax website is very good for speccing/ordering anti-vibration mounts. (I had a vibrating compressor mounted on the wall, which now is silent).

Industrial & Home Rubber Products Company - Polymax UK

O Rings to Matting, Anti Vibration Mounts to Rubber Flooring. Leading manufacturers of Rubber sheets, Boat Fender, Garage and Gym Flooring, Stable Mats

www.polymax.co.uk