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Hi everybody - I have taken refuge from the tropical heat for a little while, and have found myself irresistibly drawn back to the Universal Hobel.

So, let's start with the blade. I don't think it will win any prizes, but how many other planes can boast a painted blade and cap iron, eh? I managed to find a line in between the pits in the steel which I could make sharp enough for my experiments; filed the paint off the business end of the cap iron, and reassembled it all.

I forgot to point out that the front of the plane is moveable, giving it an adjustable mouth:

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This is where we hit a bit of a snag. The back of the movable bit is at 90° to the sole, so if you slide it forward to make a wide mouth, the shavings all pack up into the space under the overhang:

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This isn't so bad if you take a thicker shaving, or set the mouth a bit narrower:

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It was pretty hopeless as a smoother on a wide surface - especially as I had sharpened the blade with no camber and sharp corners. Not too bad on the edge of a board, and surprisingly ok on end grain, which crumbled in the mouth without clogging. What about using it with the fences on, as a fillister plane? The bottom fence only slides far enough to take a cut of about 28mm, which is a fault which could have been designed out but wasn't. I sharpened the nicker and held a bit of scrap pine fast to the bench:

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This sort of cross-grain work was actually ok:

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This shows the sort of finish on soft pine:

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(I take the blame for the ding from the depth stop.) It's not a show surface, but would be fine for something like the top ends of a door casing.

I tried a rebate with the grain, on the same settings. I left the nicker in place for a few strokes, which defined a clear line through the knot. Here's an 'action shot'

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and here's the finish - showing the visible nicker line from the previous cut. (Stop sniggering at the back!)

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As a comparison, I tried cleaning up the rebate with a specialist rebate plane from one of England's most respected makers, and I don't think it could make any improvement:

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So, overall, it does work, and would be fine for joinery work in softwood. The quality of the finish is strictly functional - steel threaded inserts and polyurethane varnish. It's reasonably easy to hold and use. (Btw, thanks to Douglas for identifying the faux-ivory handles - that's not a material I was very familar with.) The cuts were square and flat without having to try very hard. The big, depth-adjustable nicker is better than the tiny ones on metal planes and easier to use then the English wedged equivalent.

So, I might use it a bit if I do some shed building or suchlike, though I expect I'd prefer my old C19th English moving fillister, or a 78/778. I guess this is really the degenerate descendant of some of the really nice old tools in the European tradition, like this one, which I have shown on here before:

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so overall I think I'll keep it.


And I hope that last picture took away any nasty taste left by the others!
 
I honestly like this plane a lot (from pics). All tools are a compromise and anything 'Universal' is certainly so. But it does actually look a picture - assuming more than one was made, I need to go on the hunt. Still wonder if it is an early relative of those Primus planes (hornbeam etc).
 
AHHHHHHAAAH!!

So....the drugs are finally working....soon I will rid the world of all mortal opposition to fine tools...soon they will all be MINE!

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HA! HA! HA!

I don't think I will ever recover from this thread....

....I think the fact that it has larger nickers says it all.... :mrgreen:

:wink:

Jim
 
a query re pluralism. It has one nicker I think. Now why do we call a shirt (with 2 sleeves) a singular shirt, yet we call a trouser a pair of (except in the fashion industry where they will speak of the 'trouser'), a skirt is singular, knickers are plural, yet there is just the one. Eternally puzzled. Two arms - one shirt. Two legs... a pair of.
And I bet it turns out that this plane is an early 'parent' of the more recent Primus. Do I have to do that research?? (Joking apart, I want one... or is it a pair. No, that would be a congregation according to Scouse.)
 
Douglas - re the origins of this plane - I think it's squarely in the European tradition; the Primus planes are one variant from a wider gene pool, as is the 'Aldi Plane.'

For evidence, I suggest two wonderful collectors websites where earlier examples are lovingly recorded.

This is from Wolgang Jordan's site, and shows the shavings-avoiding depth gauge, the metal screw-held fence, and the full size nicker, but not of course the horn; the horn is a feature of bench planes, not rebate planes, and is what marks my one out as an odd hybrid.

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Go to this page for more similar but fascinatingly different variants, and allow plenty of time to explore!

This is from Christian Peglow's site which shows off his awesome collection:

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These are older of course, and use a simple wedge to hold the iron.

This interesting smoothing plane has a comfortable extra bit behind the blade (not made of wood, which would be more usual) much like the faux ivory on my one:

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I'm sure somewhere he must have pictures of something similar with an adjustable mouth, but I can't find it at the moment, and am too upset by this adaptation in Christian Peglow's collection -

Warning to Jimi and any others who cherish old infills - look away now!












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I did warn you, and yes, that's the fence from a no 78, surgically grafted on!

It also has the depth stop:

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- but that's enough for one night!
 
Come now, Rob, you're always saying about how we shouldn't be afraid to adapt our tools to our needs, and at least it's been done neatly. Actually I rather like it. (cries of "Stone the heretic" ring out, and Alf beats a hasty retreat...)
 
Pictures like that Andy can get you banned from the Worshipful Order of the Stuffed Rosewood...like a shot! :shock:

Say three hail Baileys and go stand in a corner..... :mrgreen:

(actually I quite like it too!)

Jim
 
AndyT":3rqm743o said:
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I did warn you, and yes, that's the fence from a no 78, surgically grafted on!

It also has the depth stop:

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- but that's enough for one night!

=D> =D> =D>

My only objection is that actually cutting a rebate of any size via the gossamer shavings an infill shoulder is (normally) designed to take would be slow.

Older texts speak of cutting a rebate with a rebate or fillister, and using a shoulder plane afterwards to finalise accuracy and finish.

BugBear
 
I think it's a useful reminder of a few things. First, that for many woodworkers, the end justifies the means. Their objective is to make things, not to have a collection of tools in pristine condition. Also, that many collectable/valuable tools have gone through an intermediate stage of being just plain old tools - rejected and unloved. (I remember thinking my father's tools were no good, as they all had wooden handles.) So maybe this one got modified while it was still just seen as a worthless old tool, or else it could have been owned by a strict utilitarian, who made it into what he wanted.
 
More hot news from the workbench and the ingeniousness of the East German planemakers.

Having had a bit of a go with my Universal-Hobel, I found that there was a funny little plastic brick left over:

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Fortunately, I have the instructions, and also fortunately, Google Translate does an even more impressive job than it used to do on translating that sort of thing. It said to put it under the hand rest, like this:

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Here's the plane without:

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and with:

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So you can change the angle from 45 to 49 degrees!

I'm sort of impressed! (And I can't think of any other consumer-level plane that does the same trick.)
 
AndyT":2jzuapub said:
I think it's a useful reminder of a few things. First, that for many woodworkers, the end justifies the means. Their objective is to make things, not to have a collection of tools in pristine condition. Also, that many collectable/valuable tools have gone through an intermediate stage of being just plain old tools - rejected and unloved. (I remember thinking my father's tools were no good, as they all had wooden handles.) So maybe this one got modified while it was still just seen as a worthless old tool, or else it could have been owned by a strict utilitarian, who made it into what he wanted.

I don't think there's ever been a time when the best way to turn an infill shoulder plane into an effective fillister wouldn't have been to sell the one, and buy the other.

Then go out for a few beers on the profit. :D :D :D

BugBear
 
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