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Monkey Mark

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Just got these off gumtree from a really lovely gentleman.
I don't know much about these as it's my first forage into this so any information would be appreciated.

First one.

The plane
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Sole
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One end
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Other end
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Iron
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And the second.

The plane
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Sole
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End
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Iron
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Couple of nice planes, there. The first is a jack, the second is a badger - a sort of large rebate plane used by joiners to clean up partially-machined door frame stock and similar jobs. They're not rare, but they're not all that common either.
 
I have a Salmen 'Master' brand Plane. Mine is a coffin smoother, yours looks like a Jack Plane - around 17" long?
 
The "Master" brand name belonged to AB Salmen's Successors, who were one of the last wooden plane makers. They bought the long established plane business of Charles Nurse & Co in 1937 and carried on making wooden planes into the 1960s, with some machine production. Their planes were often sold to school woodwork shops.

The badger plane is much older. Henry Bailey was in business as a planemaker in Sunderland between 1851 and 1859 which was not very long.

Both look useful and usable to me.
 
AndyT":2ow2yggj said:
The "Master" brand name belonged to AB Salmen's Successors, who were one of the last wooden plane makers. They bought the long established plane business of Charles Nurse & Co in 1937 and carried on making wooden planes into the 1960s, with some machine production. Their planes were often sold to school woodwork shops.

The badger plane is much older. Henry Bailey was in business as a planemaker in Sunderland between 1851 and 1859 which was not very long.

Both look useful and usable to me.
Very interesting. The Jack has 1946 stamped on it which I presume to be the year of manufacture.

I had no idea the badger would be that old!
 
Nice finds!
Both have a proper mouth and I noted the two holes on the sole of the badger plane. Someone seems had nailed a fence, may be for executing a repetitive job?

Ciao
Giuliano :D
 
The Master plane that I have and the majority that I've seen online have the date stamp and ministry broad arrow, perhaps the Crown ^^^ has the same significance. They may have been one of the last wooden plane makers because they were in the business of filling contracts rather than trying to produce what the market was moving towards.
Any chance of a picture of the iron in the 'badger' plane? The woodwork appears a largely conventional body so the iron has a kink in it?

Cheers.
 
Badger irons aren't kinky, just skewed. The photos in this link - http://www.petermcbride.com/badger/ - show both the skew iron and matching cap-iron, and the construction of the body that holds them; a badger in bits (hope that's phrased OK - I don't want the RSPCA descending on the forum like a horde of rampaging Visigoths). I've also posted it because it shows something I've never seen or heard of before - an iron badger.
 
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