The 'Post a photo of the last thing you made' thread.

[nev]

There's some great stuff posted on that thread, everything from simple craft projects to fine furniture and this week, a wonderful guitar :shock: and would like to thank everyone for contributing. =D>
However... :roll:
I can't help thinking that if they had a thread of their own it would be easier to delve into a project in more depth and share/ glean the knowledge etc. and they'd probably easier to find in the future for reference or inspiration.

So when you think of 'posting a picture of the last thing you made' don't be shy and consider starting a fresh thread in the General Woodworking or relevant section if you feel like.

P.S.
Nothings happening to the original PAPOTLTYM thread and feel free to continue using that one if you prefer, just thought it'd be nice to see some more in depth threads on some great stuff.

Cheers

 

[sunnybob]

Nev, I have to admit that I dont look at that thread purely because of the sheer number of pages. i rarely look at any thread more than 4 pages long unless personally involved.

Just a suggestion, but is it at all possible to condense that kind of thread?
As in... some one posts a picture of what theyve made, and a few (or several) people comment directly about that item (all good so far), but then it inevitably gets hi jacked one way or another and then there are several pages that have absolutely nothing to do with any one making anything.

The for sale page has benefited a lot by not allowing spurious comments to clutter it up, is it within the mods domain to just remove posts that are either hijacks or posts that do not bear on the thread in any way?

Even if it was done after a suitable time elapse so it could be called "general housekeeping" and therefore doesnt offend the "censorship sensitive" element?
And before anyone gets the hump, I plead as guilty as anybody to the charge of hijacking.

 

[ColeyS1]

Must admit Nev that I feel all those 'what did you etc etc' type threads have made the forum a tad less exciting. I'm the same as Sunnybob and rarely view them anymore cause it's so difficult to keep up with, let alone have a conversation about a certain project. I found when I posted on there it made me lazy, rarely post much at all now, goes straight to pinterest.
I saved a memo on my phone around Christmas about those types of threads and how my new years resolution was to stop using them and start with wips again. I didn't share my view cause I thought it'd probably cause disruption.
Nothing to lose now by saying, I think all of those compiled 'what did you do bla de bla' threads have had a negative impact. Ban all of them !

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[Ttrees]

I find them quite helpful really.
Whats so hard about going to the last page ?
I find it useful for finding stuff out ,kinda like a tips and tricks thread.
No-one is going to make a post about the small stuff, but it makes it onto this thread sometimes.
For instance, I found out where to get bits for a router plane yesterday
Steven can post his router plane again when the time comes up.
It might have made a bit of a short WIP,
A lot of the time I just like seeing folks workshops, I try and post piccys with a background shot sometimes
if its a simple thing that's shown.
Tom

 

[memzey]

I love the PAPOTLTYM thread. It's one of the first things I look for when I visit the site. Seeing the things both simple and complex that other users have made is an inspiration. I like a nice wip thread as much as the next man but don't spend as much time on the projects forum (where I think they belong) as I do in general woodworking.

 

[nev]

Sorry Bob, I don't think theres any chance of judicious pruning of the aforementioned thread as its a general 'all in' thread its difficult to judge whats off topic etc and also the Mods have enough to do without having to trawl through nearly 2500 posts in the one thread!

I agree that the sheer size of the thread can be off-putting to some but on the other hand, a good nights read to others.

I think that its a suitable place for simple quick posts/projects that may interest others or spark an idea or two or just make us smile, but I believe it would be of benefit to all readers that the majority of the excellent projects on display would be worthy of their own threads.

For example, just on the last page or two, a hand made plane that has inspired interest from others, Simo's gorgeous guitar build, Alex's key box and Lotusbleu's built in wardrobes, all of which I'm sure many of us would be interested in build methods, finishes, hardware suppliers etc. etc.

 

[CHJ]

My main dislike of such threads is the inability to search them reliably if you remember seeing some excellent work posted and wanted to follow up on the posters other work.

Admins welcome message to the forum is:-

This site was built to help people of any age to learn the basics of woodworking. Over the past 10 years it has grown into one of the UK’s biggest woodworking websites. There’s loads to offer including step by step projects & guides, tool reviews, links to other woodworking related sites and a forum with a great & active community – is the best place to ask for help and chat to other woodworkers from all over the world…

To me such threads are in the main biased towards the Chat aspects rather than providing searchable WIP or background information for others to learn from.

The only way I could see such threads being searchable friendly would be to enforce the entering of Post titles but this is down to admin adjustment of the software and would become tiresome for every post.

 

[CHJ]

Example of Post Title enabling a search from this thread.

 

[ColeyS1]

I think it's a slippery slope tbh. 15 years time -

Post a photo of the last thing you sanded

Post a photo of your thinnest shaving

Post a photo of your favourite wood finish

Post a photo of your best weld

Post a photo of your favourite tool

Post a photo of your workbench

Etc etc etc etc.

It'll slowly become a showing off forum instead of encouraging people to share and discuss there own projects. Instead of seeing lots of wips and thinking 'I might try that' it'll be "wow, I'd never be able to make that !" and they won't bother trying.
Imho it's the worst thing that ever happened to this forum.

Coley


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[Setch]

I love the "what was the last thing you made" type threads, for their variety and contrast, but I think they should be jumping off point if people have more detailed or explainitary details. A pic on the big thread, then a link to the dedicated post about masking the thing in question would serve very well, and help you see things you might otherwise miss.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

I think it's a slippery slope tbh. 15 years time -

Post a photo of the last thing you sanded

Post a photo of your thinnest shaving

Post a photo of your favourite wood finish

Post a photo of your best weld

Post a photo of your favourite tool

Post a photo of your workbench

Etc etc etc etc.

It'll slowly become a showing off forum instead of encouraging people to share and discuss there own projects. Instead of seeing lots of wips and thinking 'I might try that' it'll be "wow, I'd never be able to make that !" and they won't bother trying.
Imho it's the worst thing that ever happened to this forum.

Coley


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You did forget "post a photo of your best photo".

 

[ColeyS1]

Ha ha, I missed that one Phil
The "what did you do in your workshop today" has basically destroyed the entire point of having different sections/subforums.
I've looked a few times in the post a photo....thread. Each project deserves it's own seperate thread, and each poster deserves more praise than they actually get, just cause it moves too quickly.
The old days were the best,as cheesy as that sounds. When I say old days, I mean before they tried compacting an entire forum into two threads :lol:

Coley

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[Random Orbital Bob]

I entirely agree. Whats happening to this forum is the work has remained the same high quality but its presentation and layout has accidentally got "dummed down" by the design of that threads layout. No one's to blame, we just need to start posting WIP threads as individual projects again, preferably with a title that makes future sense to a search engine ie the central theme is denoted somewhere in the title.

One thing people seem to forget is that this forum doesn't just help people in the here and now, it also provides a massive database of historical knowledge from which people can draw when their project goals coincide with the topics already documented. Using this "one bucket does everything" approach is just bad design, nothing more nothing less. So, if we want this place to be about poor thinking and sloppy design that makes it difficult to search then we should carry on. Or we could do something about it.

 

[CHJ]

Two Posts that stood to get lost in all the daily chat and are more than good enough to stand on their own. One for quality of work and target to aim for and the other for just shear inspirational use of what is to hand for those with limited funds.


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[ColeyS1]

As daft as it sounds I think of those threads effect on the forum, the same way as my bathtub- its a gradual change that's barely noticeable, but after a while it just needs a good clean cause it's got dirty !
Those threads have proved popular but I think they've had a more negative effect than any sharpening, religious or political thread ever have. Your reply Random Orbital Bob is bang on.
It's gone on for so long now that it'll be hard to break the habit, unless something happens, for the greater good [WINKING FACE]

It'll be like smashing back an overgrown hedge. It'll look bare and knackered for a while, but gradually it'll grow back and flourish.



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[ColeyS1]

Two Posts that stood to get lost in all the daily chat and are more than good enough to stand on their own. One for quality of work and target to aim for and the other for just shear inspirational use of what is to hand for those with limited funds.


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From "What did you do in your workshop today ? "
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I completely agree Chas. Surely the easiest solution is to just lock them now ? Every picture/project is worthy of its own thread and discussion. Everything done in the workshop is probably interesting enough to post in general woodworking in it own seperate conversation ? It wouldn't be saying "sorry chaps, I don't want you posting pictures here anymore" you're actually saying "please post more so we can give each project/picture the attention it deserves" It started off a couple innocent threads,no one could have predicted how popular they'd become. It's now without warning started to vacuum and compress the entire forum ! I wonder if anyone's posted a project, only for it to have been completely lost and not even had a single reply ?
I admire the people that have resisted the now familiar 'post n go', and have carried on with wip's or starting seperate threads- that can't be easy. Hats off to you guys



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[MusicMan]

There are other reasons for not publishing a full WIP. It's quite a lot of work, which the poster might not feel up to, at least without encouragement. Also there is natural modesty. Especially with the fabulous work and projects shown by the best people here, people may feel inhibited about showing their full work. I try to do it when others might be interested in some of the techniques used. I must say that favourable comments by the experts on this forum are then very encouraging.

I also belong to a metal machining forum and find the comments there quite different, more along the lines of "why did you do it that way you idiot, the right way is ...", usually from retired professionals. I don't use that forum now if I can avoid it.

Perhaps it would work if people asked for a full WIP to encourage a 'what did you do..' poster to elaborate?

 

[John15]

Agreed as others have said. Posting something you've spent many tens of hours to make becomes almost immediate history having been overtaken by more current posts. Many deserve discussion and praise which is almost impossible in the '...last thing you made thread'.

John

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Also of course your comments often appear under a post to which they're not relevant.