I certainly didn't know it before, either.Judging from everything I've read on this forum and the other that I frequent, it is not commonly known at all.
That doesn't address those that can and will know what the symbols mean: those at the suffering end and those inducing the suffering. I wouldn't call either "obsessive saddos".Nelsun,
with the exception of the universally known swastika, I doubt very much that most people would know a Nazi symbol if they fell over it and it said "Sieg Heil!" to them. That sort of esoterica is not widely known although I'll cough to having read an explanation of where Combat 18 got its name from. So my obsessive saddos remark stands.
Perhaps you're right. I think there's certainly a generational component.Judging from everything I've read on this forum and the other that I frequent, it is not commonly known at all.
I agree, I assume as it has cost sky history a couple of million, that they will put together some edited version, easy to do if 'the woodsman' went out at an early round, less easy if he got quite far through. i assume he didn't win as that would have been in the headlines.I feel sorry for the other contestants. One of them has already won this (it must have been filmed pre-lockdown) and can claim to be “Britain’s Best Woodworker”. If you were trying to use the opportunity of being on the programme to springboard your career, it’s now been dashed.
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the programme, if you were just starting a woodwork career, a massive amount of publicity wouldn’t hurt a bit.
He has them tattooed all over his face, in what way is he keeping it to himself?..so for me that means that he is capable of keeping his suspected politics to himself..
The Nazis are not a political party, they are a hate group.The best thing is to keep politics for election time.
It doesn't matter whether anyone recognises them or not, the fact that he has Nazi and White Supremacist symbols tattooed on his face is enough...most folk wouldn't have recognised anything on his face..
..a possible martyr has been created for RW extremists.
Now if he'd actually done or said anything unpleasant, that would have been a different kettle of fish entirely.
I think he went on TV to showcase his woodworking skills, just the same as the other contestants did.he has Nazi and White Supremacist symbols tattooed on his face and then gone on TV to promote it.
You're right, I didn't mean 'actively' promote but anyone looking at his face is subjected to the 'advertising'.I think he went on TV to showcase his woodworking skills, just the same as the other contestants did.
I very much doubt that he thought "Here's an opportunity to promote white supremacy".
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I'm not misrepresenting anything. Because you and some other people don't know that a thing is something used by bigots, racists, homophobes etc to hide in plain sight doesn't make people that DO know these things saddos. The whole point of these symbols is to hide their true feelings and wave them in the faces of minorities, jews, etc etc without some of them knowing that they think Hitler was actually a really nice bloke, had great ideas in murdering millions, torturing thousands and generally being "a bit of a nob".You're slightly misrepresenting what I posted: most folk wouldn't have recognised anything on his face just by normal "looking" - witness the general reaction on here to the allegations and I know I certainly didn't - therefore the people who recognised what they did must be obsessive saddos to conduct what must have been an almost forensic examination of the bloke's face, hence my canine comparison.
FWIW I've read a fair bit about Naziism in an attempt to understand how such a political movement could emerge, thrive and nearly come out on top and surprisingly it is very difficult to come up with a brief summary of what defines how monstrous it was. To brand it a "hate group" won't do, if you're talking about the original Nazis. As you get nearer to an understanding of the historical truth, it becomes clear that it was far more complex and far more disturbing than that. But that said, it's clear that your comment refers to a grouping in modern Britain and when dealing with the ill-educated, rather moronic people involved, it's an unsuitable tag which nonetheless serves a purpose.He has them tattooed all over his face, in what way is he keeping it to himself?
The Nazis are not a political party, they are a hate group.
It doesn't matter whether anyone recognises them or not, the fact that he has Nazi and White Supremacist symbols tattooed on his face is enough.
He won't be made a martyr because he isn't dead, or likely to be just from this exposure. He would more likely be made a hero by the right wing extremists.
He has done something unpleasant - he has Nazi and White Supremacist symbols tattooed on his face and then gone on TV to promote it.
It seems to me that you are being wilfully blind with a motive to either take fence sitting to the absolute extreme or just standard internet trolling.