The Apprentice...

[Bingy man]

Walked out or was thrown out, or did someone call them coloured? context need explanation please.

Only gave the paper a quick glance as I was getting my moms papers , walked out as far as I read , a quick google search confirms the Sri Lankan candidate used the word coloured to describe black people . The bbc are saying he received diversity training and that he quit for another reason , another report says he left before he was fired . Either way a little over the top , and as I said I’m not turning this thread into racial awareness post I just find it strange that because the episode has not yet aired so it could of been edited out without any fuss or bother ..jmho

 

[Eshmiel]

They don't pick contestants for their business acumen, they are making an entertainment show whose main purpose is to get views/comments/media attention.... same as any other 'reality' or 'talent' show. There are dozens of people on this forum that produce work far superior to that shown on 'Britain's Best Woodworker' for example, and that is before you get to professional or trade cabinet makers and the like. Don't watch The Apprentice as 'the future brains of business Britain', watch it as entertainment (if you must watch it at all!) - after all, how many people really want to watch a well run board room meeting or product design launch?!

Don't watch it, or about 99.9% of other mass media output, at all. Many is the brain that's been infested and rotted by such stuff. We like to think we're immune because we can say, "Isn't that awful". But the "awful" is now in the brainbox and doing what it does best - displacing or corrupting stuff that really matters.

 

[artie]

Dipping my toe so softly into a minefield...

What is the proper way to refer to black, coloured, people in this strange world we live in.?

It doesn't come up often, but I try to say the guy in the hat, or grey jacket if possible

 

[Eshmiel]

Dipping my toe so softly into a minefield...

What is the proper way to refer to black, coloured, people in this strange world we live in.?

It doesn't come up often, but I try to say the guy in the hat, or grey jacket if possible

It's a valid question 'cos of the culture we live in, with its many rather stupid taxonomies, divisions, classifications and schemas. But .....

In one sense it's the wrong question. If the notion of race, as often found in out culture, is invalid (and personally I think it is) then we can refer to other people in all sorts of ways that are meaningful without considering the colour of their skin. For example, if the skin colour is a sort of pinkish-white, do we ever find ourselves referring to, "That pinkish-white person"?

Sometimes a skin colour (or nose-shape or hair colour or number of working eyes) is relevant - in, for example, a description issued to those searching for an individual who may be lost, injured or the burglar one saw climbing out the shed window with one's only Festool. But generally, its irrelevant.

Well, sort of. Because our society and culture in general has become obsessed with skin colour, with various prejudices and disadvantages applied to those who are, say, purple, we end up talking about it. I blame that Julian Huxley and his forebears.

 

[Cabinetman]

Dipping my toe so softly into a minefield...

What is the proper way to refer to black, coloured, people in this strange world we live in.?

It doesn't come up often, but I try to say the guy in the hat, or grey jacket if possible

Thanks for asking, I don’t know tbh, it used to be rude to refer to someone as being black, and coloured was the term used but that’s all reversed now?
I think we are all more than a little afraid of getting this sort of thing wrong and already I’m beginning to think I should have kept quiet.

 

[mwinfrance]

one's only Festool

that is like saying one only ate one crisp.

I thought acquiring Festool gear was addictive..almost up there with fentanyl, or Colombian marching powder.

I've always managed to avoid buying a festool..now if they made gouges, that might not be the case.

 

[Eshmiel]

that is like saying one only ate one crisp.

I thought acquiring Festool gear was addictive..almost up there with fentanyl, or Colombian marching powder.

I've always managed to avoid buying a festool..now if they made gouges, that might not be the case.

'Twas but a hypothetical burglary of the Festool. In fact I do have five: 2 now ancient sanders (they were sold when called "Festo") and an equally ancient dust sucker bought at the same time. Only one has needed a fix by the Festool fixers. The big Domino and the smaller Domino, I have. No more, though, but! I nearly bought their jigsaw but got a Mafell instead.

 

[misterfish]

I always think of the Michell and Webb sketch = Mitchell and Webb - Apprentice - It describes it succinctly

 

[Fergie 307]

I watch it just to be appalled. I worked in Corporate sales and sales mgt for 25 years, carrying sales quota of over 600 m ukp in that time. There are very few of those candidates I would consider for a job.
The best bit of the series is the prog where they look at business cases, some of them are utterly appalling.

I have up watching the whole thing a long time ago. Used to still watch the last episode when they got picked apart, Claude Littner certainly didn't take prisoners. More entertaining than the rest of the series put together.

 

[Eshmiel]

I have up watching the whole thing a long time ago. Used to still watch the last episode when they got picked apart, Claude Littner certainly didn't take prisoners. More entertaining than the rest of the series put together.

Dafty mocking and humiliation as entertainment? Hmmmmm.

 

[Fergie 307]

Dafty mocking and humiliation as entertainment? Hmmmmm.

More a puncturing of some seriously over inflated egos, and some awkward moments as the details of some CV were examined more closely.
Might be interesting to see our chancellor versus Mr Littner.

 

[robgul]

The edition on 13 Feb was filmed in Stratford-upon-Avon (where I live) - I was waylaid and diverted by groups of posing idiots strutting around with film crews and fawning "assistants" in the centre of the town.

I recall meeting Sugar when he was flogging stuff out of the back of his car in the 1960 - a sharp cookie, but I wouldn't have thought being a "Trump lookalike/clone" was going to feature in his future.

 

[TheUnicorn]

Going back to the rhubarb question, one of the girls tried to help the bloke out by stating "it's like pink celery..."

which to be fair is an absolutely accurate description of what a trimmed stem of rhubarb looks like, if you don't know what rhubarb is what better way for someone to describe it?

 

[Spectric]

What can be said about reality Tv, it's sole purpose is for cheap programs to fill gaps on Tv whilst providing the evidence that we are overwhelmed by muppets and no hopers. Sugar knows that the only people willing to participate will be the worst of the bunch with CV's much the same as Rachel from accounts and without much between the ears but it makes him money and so he is the only real winner in all of this. I think people only watch these programs out of a desire to prove they have the ability to do so without screaming at the walls in desperation.

 

[Cozzer]

which to be fair is an absolutely accurate description of what a trimmed stem of rhubarb looks like, if you don't know what rhubarb is what better way for someone to describe it?

That's assuming he knew what celery was.
But don't fret.
Judging from the rest of the bunch, he'll probably win...

 

[mwinfrance]

Slight, but just slight , difference in the leaves between celery and rhubarb, even without taking into account the difference in toxicity between the leaves.
The gene pool might be improved if that was not mentioned to those who thought that they were similar, and were thus tempted to eat the leaves of rhubarb though.

 

[Puggers]

 

[jetsetwilly]

My issue with The Apprentice is that it portrays a very distorted picture of reality. It's not about the contestants or really the format, it's the idea that this is actually how business works. For me it's so far away from reality that it's not worth watching, and I think it should come with some kind of warning that you can learning absolutely nothing from it. I get recipes from Masterchef, but having 'done' business and entrepreneurship I can't think of a single useful takeaway from The Apprentice, or Dragon's Den for that matter.

 

[Spectric]

For me it's so far away from reality that it's not worth watching

That is the problem when you mess around with a language, you can call something reality Tv but it is far from being real or true to life in any sense of the word. What you have to bear in mind is that these programs are aimed at a certain sector of the viewing audience where they don't have much comprehension of what is real, fake or madeup and prefer to live in some parallel universe where they believe that anything can be real including unicorns.

 

[Amplidyne]

That is the problem when you mess around with a language, you can call something reality Tv but it is far from being real or true to life in any sense of the word. What you have to bear in mind is that these programs are aimed at a certain sector of the viewing audience where they don't have much comprehension of what is real, fake or madeup and prefer to live in some parallel universe where they believe that anything can be real including unicorns.

What you mean to say that unicorns aren't real?
You'll be telling me next that the American continent hasn't been taken over by flesh eating zombies. I was watching a reality programme about that last night. About that bloke Daryl Dixon.