artie
Sawdust manufacturer.
Is flu not a virus?
Social distancing, .. what's that?
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woodhutt
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Actually, the article is largely about the incorrect interpretation of information out there, some deliberate, and which is disseminated on social media (and posts like this) which give a voice to conspiracy theorists and ultracrepidarians.
I would have thought that the solution to reacting to the pandemic would be fairly simple. Look at those countries who have successfully suppressed the disease and those who haven't. Copy the former and avoid the latter.
However, as this will be my last post on this forum (and even visit to the site), I won't get into a discussion on the subject. I had joined the site believing I would have something in common with the members originating, as I do, from the UK albeit almost 50 years ago. I have learned from reading the various posts that this is not the case. The past really is a different country. It has been an eye-opening experience for which, I suppose, I must say thanks.
I'll sign off wishing you all the best in your future post-covid, post Brexit world.
Trainee neophyte
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A pitty you have gone, because I wanted to thank you for expanding my vocabulary. "Ultracrepidarian" is definitely my word of the day. If you last saw the UK in 1970, then you are absolutely right that the past is another country.
heimlaga
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New Zeeland has been fairly successful and Finland and Iceland aren't too far behind.
In this game there is nothing such as a total success. Only various grades of failiour. Falling just a little short of success is way better than a big time screw up when losses are roughly proportional to the grade of failiour.
In this game there is nothing such as a total success. Only various grades of failiour. Falling just a little short of success is way better than a big time screw up when losses are roughly proportional to the grade of failiour.
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Terry - Somerset
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I don't see much merit in comparing the UK with countries which are fundamentally dissimilar - it is simply an exercise in selective statistics. Comparators should be similar in:
The other obvious anomaly is Japan with very low virus deaths.
Also need to consider culture and politics - eg: China "benefits" from a compliant population - challenge the government and prison camp may await. Germany is generally attatched to "alles in ordnung".
The UK by contrast delights in individualism - no matter how profoundly daft.
- population density (Sweden is 10% of UK)
- large centres of population (Helsinki is about the size of Bristol)
- level of development (agriculture is NZ largest industry)
- international connectivity (UK is hub, NZ is end of the line)
- economic performance (Vietnam <$3k per capita, UK $42k)
The other obvious anomaly is Japan with very low virus deaths.
Also need to consider culture and politics - eg: China "benefits" from a compliant population - challenge the government and prison camp may await. Germany is generally attatched to "alles in ordnung".
The UK by contrast delights in individualism - no matter how profoundly daft.
artie
Sawdust manufacturer.
This is the point, we won't get this time back, it's gone wasted.
heimlaga
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We will never get this time back.......... but tomorrow we will have to live with the consequeces of our decisions made today. Even avoiding to make a decision counts as a decision.
If you decide to be irresposible you are the one who has to carry the blame if it gets a bad end.
In my family we have decided that all family time where different households meet is to be outdoors or if it is raining very heavily in a half open tractor shed where the wind is blowing trough. Households stay at least 3 metres apart and eat their own food at different tables. Never more than three households at once.
Loosing three months of family time the coming winter is a small price to pay for increasing the survival chances of our elders and all other sickly or elderly people in the country.
There are certainly other clever ways for those of you who live in a more urban environment. In my opinion each and every one of us should think outside all boxes and try to come up with ways that fits his/her family.
If you decide to be irresposible you are the one who has to carry the blame if it gets a bad end.
In my family we have decided that all family time where different households meet is to be outdoors or if it is raining very heavily in a half open tractor shed where the wind is blowing trough. Households stay at least 3 metres apart and eat their own food at different tables. Never more than three households at once.
Loosing three months of family time the coming winter is a small price to pay for increasing the survival chances of our elders and all other sickly or elderly people in the country.
There are certainly other clever ways for those of you who live in a more urban environment. In my opinion each and every one of us should think outside all boxes and try to come up with ways that fits his/her family.
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Selwyn
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Sure. Common misinterpretation is that flu is weather related though
Got my last post deleted for encouraging illegal acitvity, oops! lol.
A slightly different question then that was asked on the radio at lunchtime, would you phone the police on your neighbours if you saw them have more than 6 people in their house?
A slightly different question then that was asked on the radio at lunchtime, would you phone the police on your neighbours if you saw them have more than 6 people in their house?
billw
The Tattooed One
No, that rule is farcical if you can go to pubs and socialise indoors with people you don’t know.
heimlaga
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Are you on this forum for any other reason than starting quarrels Rorschach?
You need an axe and a bow saw and 20 full size windfallen pine trees to turn into sawlogs and firewood. That is the best cure I know of when my brain is boiling and I feel like starting a fight would be a good idea.
You need an axe and a bow saw and 20 full size windfallen pine trees to turn into sawlogs and firewood. That is the best cure I know of when my brain is boiling and I feel like starting a fight would be a good idea.
RobinBHM
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RobinBHM
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the method of reporting was changed to make the figures more up to date
it has hardly any overall effect on the numbers
if you dont like the govt figures, use the ONS they use the primary cause written on the death cert
RobinBHM
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not on the ONS figures
Yes it is. (They state it on their site, you can look for yourself)
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billw
The Tattooed One
He's quitting.
Doug71
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After 6 months off school my 10 yr old managed one week back before a teaching assistant tested positive so we are back to home schooling again, his whole class has to isolate for 2 weeks 
I can't see how schools are going to manage to stay open.
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