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You're certainly right about the level of 'expertise' apparent in these places Steve.
Not long ago I was looking for a particular computer PSU and looking online I found that PC World sell the exact one I wanted, and lo and behold there is a branch on Tottenham Court Road where I work.

Upon searching the shelves I could find only ropey non-badged PSUs, so I went to the 'PC Clinic' and waited to ask someone to stock check for me. Eventually a woman came over and I told her what I needed. "I'm just down from head office doing training so I can't help you, but go to the Business Systems section down there and they've got loads of people who can help"; I thanked her and toddled off. Sure enough in the Business Systems section there were many many staff, all leaning on display shelves and having a lovely natter, studiously avoiding eye contact with any customers and shuffling uncomfortably away if any got too close. I eventually cornered one - it was like trying to herd jelly.

"Q-Tec power supply... I don't even know what you're saying. Is it a laptop or something?", I told him what it was. "Oh pc components, that's different, we can't do that, we're just business solutions, you need to talk to the guys at the PC Clinic - they'll sort you out". I thanked him and retraced my steps to the 'Clinic'.

Afew minutes later, the same lady spotted me and grinned sheepishly "Send you back here did they? Hold on, I'll get someone for you". Shortly there was a short, bearded asian lad standing before me, peering myopically through his bins. This is one of their 'PC Clinic' techs, the guys that you pay a fortune to to have your pc case kicked and declared 'healthy' - anyway, I digress.

"Do you have any Q-Tec power supplies in stock?" I asked slowly and clearly. "Is that for a laptop or something?" He replied. "No, it's the power supply unit for a standard desktop or tower style pc".

He looked at me.

"The bit at the back of the computer you plug the power into?"

A neuron fired somewhere, "Come with me", he said, leading me over to a desk where clearly a pc had recently been. He picked up the power lead sticking out of the desk and pointed at the kettle-type connection. "That's right" I said, "The bit of the computer that plugs into that."

He nodded and grinned and started to take me down the store. This was far too easy. "Not the cable itself, you understand, the power supply it goes into".

He stopped. He looked at me.

Eventually he started moving again so I followed. Down to the far end of the store we went, whereupon he waved his arm munificently to allow my awe to develop appreciably at the enormous rack of power cables before me.

"No" I said, "Not the cable, the power supply unit that the cable plugs into, it's a metal box about this big, it fits inside the computer and you plug the power cable into it".

He looked at me.

"It says on the PC World website that you sell them, so I just wanted to see if you had any in stock, as this store is on my way home and it would be convenient for me to pick it up here."

"Oh if it's on the internet you can buy it there much more cheaply."

"But it won't be cheaper because I'll have to pay postage and they're very heavy, so I want to buy one off the shelf."

"Getting it off the internet's much cheaper mate."

"No, it won't be because of the postage." *heavy sigh* "Can you order one in for me?"

At this suggestion he jumped like I'd stabbed him with a pencil or something. "No, no, we don't do customer orders, mate!!" He cried desperately.

I left the store before what little remained of my patience dissolved into a need to kill.

That evening I drove to the PC World at Northolt and located someone apparently in possession of a higher than room temperature IQ. I explained the problem.

He grinned in an embarrassed sort of 'ah-this-again' manner.

"The PC World website and the stores are totally unconnected, different prices, different stock entirely." At the look of incredulity on my face he had the common decency to shake his head. "I know..." he said, "I know..."

V.
 
Vormulac,

You deserve to be shot for trying to buy from PC World anyway - utterly useless staff and very high prices for most things. No different from Comet, Dixons etc in that respect.
 
Saw recently on the samsung site that they are to be releasing their new tube technology on the market Q1 this year.

Basically its a very very slim CRT, I think the 32" Widescreen was about 6 inches thick. They will also be resonably priced as well, i think in the region of 500 quid.

I have had 2 plasmas now and got rid of both, just didnt like them, noisy, poor picture and burn in on both of them. Wont be wasting me money again im afraid.

Signal

ps, when I find the page ill post it here for those intereseted
 
Pitbull, generally I'd be inclined to agree, I just thought I'd give it a go as it was the one place that appeared (deceptively as it turned out) to have what I wanted. A mistake not to be repeated.

V.
 
PitBull":jzcctqn4 said:
Vormulac,

You deserve to be shot for trying to buy from PC World anyway - utterly useless staff and very high prices for most things. No different from Comet, Dixons etc in that respect.

PB,
Don't necessarily disagree although I do help keep PC World in business because they are fairly close to me.

However, who would you recommend? DABs, Novatech etc.?
 
Chris,

Ebuyer are very good, may not be the cheapest but certainly very efficient and prompt.

I got barred from our PC world on the A10 in Enfield. Urgently needed a 4 way internal scsi lead on a Sunday, of course PC world was the only option.

Scoured the place but no Joy. Asked one of the plebs, he just glased over and dribbled a bit. Saw a manager, asked him.

His reply was, hmm, there is no such thing SCSI is for connecting to scanners and you can only connect one device, maybe you would like to come to one of our free training sessions.

Handed him my business card and told him where he could sitck his course and was marched off site and told never to return.

Was seething at the time but I can laugh about it now :wink:

Signal

(edited more times than I wish to care cos im having a very senior day)
 
Signal":vmmce8nv said:
I got barred from our PC world

Signal,

I have came very close to that at the Lakeside branch when CD drives were the new thing. :)
Punter in the next isle with pleb, he was asking all the right questions about multispeed and multisession and the pleb just lied and lied, my (large) son lead me off before I could get to the pleb. :oops: :roll:
 
Chris,

I've used eBuyer a bit (recently LCD screen and dual-layer DVD writer) and back in April last year most of the bits for this PC came from www.overclock.co.uk (very friendly staff).

I'm not a great fan of Dabs - used to be cheap but not so much these days and service isn't what it used to be.
 
I had big trouble with Dabs when a scanner I bought did not function.I contacted them and received an automatic email saying I needed to contact the makers(Canon) I did this and eventually I was given a returns no by Canon. Tried Dabs again, auto reply etc !I tried for three weeks to get a sensible response but all I eventually got was a collection date,no apology.I found the whole business frustrating,never again.
 
waterhead37":ugzy7pvl said:
PitBull":ugzy7pvl said:
Vormulac,

You deserve to be shot for trying to buy from PC World anyway - utterly useless staff and very high prices for most things. No different from Comet, Dixons etc in that respect.

PB,
Don't necessarily disagree ...

Not sure I like the way this is going, lots of people seem to be coming around to the idea of shooting me! :shock:

As for pc entrails, as well as Scan and CCL as mentioned by Kityuser, I find www.aria.co.uk can sometimes be the cheapest by a good margin and service has never been bad in my experience. Another one to try is www.computerprices.co.uk that searches a good many different suppliers to see who has what you want and at what price.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to find my tin hat and start digging a trench to hide in.

V.
 
kityuser":3rhbzstx said:
I would ignore everything that sales people say in shops like comet, they either lie or just don`t know.

steve

Usually they don't know a bloody thing!!

One of my favourite pastimes in PCWorld is staff baiting whenever I am in there :lol: I usually seek out one of their 'experts' and have some fun at their expense as unlike them I am actually very knowledgeable in this area

I once spoke to an 'expert' who didn't actaully know what the GHz in 3.2GHz P4 actually meant :shock:
 
when the clock speed in the old AMDs did`nt match the marketing number eg XP2400 I used to love baiting them about it! sad I know.

steve
 
Saw a reference to Dabs here. I have had very bad experiences with them twice so far and now try to avoid using them. They are typical of the problems reported with woodworking tool suppliers, very good until there is a problem!!

Typical problem was a laptop harddisk I ordered as mine failed. I ordered a 60GB disk and paid for fast delivery as I was desperate. Received next day and installed. Partitioning it I found it was only 30GB!! Checked box and HD, box said 60GB, disk had 30GB printed on label.

Took 3 weeks to get it replaced and about 20 emails + 10 phone calls. The B£$%^^s clearly thought that I was trying to rip them off - I had to wait for thier techs to recieve the 30GB (strangely they said they didn't receive it for 7 days after I sent it back!!) and 'test' it (another 3 days??????)

At least at PC world you walk out with the device in your hand and can speak to a sub-normal near human when there is a problem such as the one I experienced with Dabs!

I usualkly try to buy tools etc. locally and this sits at the top of my priority list as complaints at a distance rarely get the response they deserve but if you are in a crowded shop with raised voice........
 
Tony,

I'm guilty of baiting Comet staff :) I went to the Reading branch one time to have a look at their big 36" TVs. I'd already done the electrical/audio/video spec research online and had a list of possible models, but wanted to check them out physically.

I started inspecting them in detail, and one of the sales morons came over and started spouting off about their great prices and how I could have interest free credit etc - knew naff all about the TVs themselves. and would not go away. So I told him straight out that I was only there to get a feel for their looks and physical size and would be placing a cash internet order somewhere much cheaper. He started to get bolshy about this and called over the manager. After a short but noisy row about their rubbish prices and how the internet was so much cheaper, I was asked to leave :)

BTW whilst I'll happily abuse the facilities of big rubbish chains like Comet and Dixons, I don't do this with small local specialists such as camera or hi-fi shops - the specialist knowledge and local support outweighs the cost savings in those cases.

BTW for the record I bough a Panasonic TX-36PD30 - lovely set.
 
<i>when the clock speed in the old AMDs did`nt match the marketing number eg XP2400</i>

They still don't. The numbers are made up to approximate the equivalent Intel processor. Which is fair enough, clock speed alone being a nonsensical measure of performance, as Intel now admit (see their Pentium M range).
 
Signal and PB,

Thanks for your recommendation for EBUYER. A few days ago I ordered a USB DVD writer from them (I got a LITEON) and it's the bee's knees.

Transaction went very smoothly, price was very good and delivery fine.

The unit performs flawlessly.
 
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