Machine setter and lax standards or an attempt to do something else (get a saw to everyone that would also work sawing down the center of a wet 2x4 on a job site).transatlantic":1779dcfe said:I wonder why they would put such a large set on it in the first place?
I can understand that it needs some set (perhaps a bit more than the averge woodworker would want), as customers would complain it binds otherwise.
But having as much set as it did really made it horrible to use.
It's a bit like mitre slots on /portable/ tablesaws (even mid-range saws). They give them so much tolerance to not bind, that they become almost useless. Although that is something you can't fix easily.
I'm not sure that until the last 25 years that tools were ever really delivered finished to the standards that everyone has come to expect now. LN is the first company I can think of delivering hand-filed and minimal set saws in large number. They were following Patrick Leach (and a second person who I can't recall) making independence saws before that business was transferred or sold to LN.
It may be the change (some would say plague) of american influence where a market of new customers arrives and they want to be catered to. When LN and LV moved the bar some in terms of metal tool standards and service, clifton didn't follow. When they started making thin plate saws on a factory basis, and out of relatively hard spring steel - most of the continental europe and english stuff still around (and at a more favorable price but less refined) didn't change much.
A fellow I hold in high regard mentioned that his mentor (will reimann - a designer here in the US) had either learned in or made a trip to England in the mid 1950s, and in sheffield, he came upon a specialist working outside in the street. The guy was hand hammer setting small saws with a cross pein hammer at what he estimated to be 3 to 4 teeth per second. one would guess he was working at a shop that did sharpening, and the saw makers may have left the teeth somewhat unfinished (but I'll defer to the historians).
Not sure what standard practice was in the UK, but before the 1900s, chisels were very often (the majority of the time?) sold without handles because the purchasers didn't want to pay for factory or maker-made chisel handles that they could make themselves. Even in the wards catalogs (turn of the century), they were available unhandled.