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Phlebas":3rkm7k8e said:
Reading comprehension not my thing, apparently. Panic over.
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Reading comprehension not my thing, apparently. Panic over.
Blackswanwood
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Phil Pascoe":39pbh9ue said:I surely cannot be the only one who thought Oasis to be be no more than a third rate John Lennon tribute act?
Not sure they were that good ... :lol:
Phlebas
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Trainee neophyte":5m5ti5zb said:
Mmm. I accept your apology. I’m disappointed you even considered that I might have been a fan of Harry Webb.
However. Prog Rock, is your thing you say. Well, how far does this rabbit hole go.
The drummer in my first band was heavily into King Crimson (Bill Bruford era). Which leads you onto Gong (sort of like a drugs gateway). One, or actually both now I recall, of the keyboardists were into The Enid. One fanatically.
The first song we played in public was a version of ELPs ‘Fanfare…’ Which distinguished itself by being even longer than the original. Unfashionable even then.
So I have some idea whereof I speak.
And Prog was largely self-indulgent tripe. No-one needs drum solos. No one needs concept albums. (Oooh, I can have go at Rick Wakeman now, for all that he is supremely talented, and very funny).
I was the only person in my circle arguing for the attraction of, say, John Taylor’s bass playing. Far more fun. You could dance to it. And the songs were shorter, even if the lyrics didn’t make any more sense. And you got to dress like a demented peacock on speed. What’s not to like.
Go on then, make your case for Prog…
Prog's a difficult area, isn't it?
There was some good stuff but there was an awful lot of undistinguished, tedious rubbish. In that sense, it was quite like classical music and to an extent, jazz: nearly always technically highly competent but often involving music that you'd not want to give a second listen to.
Off the top of my head, I have only two nominations for excellent prog albums, both by the much maligned ELP and they are Trilogy (which despite the name is a single album and Brain Salad Surgery.
When I was at school I was lent an album by Greenslade and quite liked it but can't remember what it was called.
There was also a Swedish bloke called Bo Hansson whose music was unfairly (IMO) labelled prog and which was highly original and quite magical.
There was some good stuff but there was an awful lot of undistinguished, tedious rubbish. In that sense, it was quite like classical music and to an extent, jazz: nearly always technically highly competent but often involving music that you'd not want to give a second listen to.
Off the top of my head, I have only two nominations for excellent prog albums, both by the much maligned ELP and they are Trilogy (which despite the name is a single album and Brain Salad Surgery.
When I was at school I was lent an album by Greenslade and quite liked it but can't remember what it was called.
There was also a Swedish bloke called Bo Hansson whose music was unfairly (IMO) labelled prog and which was highly original and quite magical.
Blackswanwood
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Any views on Walter Trout? Battle Scars is imho one of the best albums ever made.
thetyreman
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for me the more self indulgent and extreme the better, King Crimson are absolutely amazing one of the best bands of all time, literally up there with the beatles, led zep e.t.c, just goes to show you we all have different tastes
TFrench":2ocxtxzz said:
I thought you were about to say "... sack him".
Keith 66
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And then there is Mr Marcaille, a classically trained French Cellist of great musical skill who has taken Metal shaken it up & dispensed with all the unnecessary stuff like band mates, singers with egos & arguments as to how it should sound, all distilled into the essence of metal!
, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TNlsjuTQs&t=384s,
, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TNlsjuTQs&t=384s,
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Sorry - been busy.
I'm not into prog rock, per se; I like pretentiously over-the-top music, and I like silly music. If you can combine the two, then perfect. This means I tend to be a bit selective.
So, an example of what I mean: [youtube]g4ouPGGLI6Q[/youtube]
I currently have on my mp3 player (but things come and go on a regular basis), in no particular order
Hawkwind
Camel
Jethro Tull
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Muse (the entire discography)
Black Sabbath
Foo Fighters
50 greatest metal hits
200 random 70s rock songs.
Led Zeppelin
Van der Graff Generator
Capercaillie (Scottish folk band - very good indeed)
Morcheba
Queen's first three albums(but not for much longer)
Left field
Kula Shaker
Pearl Jam
Prince Far I
Groove Armada
Pink Floyd
Gorillas
There's more, but that's a representative sample. I don't know how well you can pigeonhole my tastes, but the only thing I ask is no dull music, please (Camel hover on the brink, but I have fond memories, so they are having a brief reapearance).
I'm not into prog rock, per se; I like pretentiously over-the-top music, and I like silly music. If you can combine the two, then perfect. This means I tend to be a bit selective.
So, an example of what I mean: [youtube]g4ouPGGLI6Q[/youtube]
I currently have on my mp3 player (but things come and go on a regular basis), in no particular order
Hawkwind
Camel
Jethro Tull
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Muse (the entire discography)
Black Sabbath
Foo Fighters
50 greatest metal hits
200 random 70s rock songs.
Led Zeppelin
Van der Graff Generator
Capercaillie (Scottish folk band - very good indeed)
Morcheba
Queen's first three albums(but not for much longer)
Left field
Kula Shaker
Pearl Jam
Prince Far I
Groove Armada
Pink Floyd
Gorillas
There's more, but that's a representative sample. I don't know how well you can pigeonhole my tastes, but the only thing I ask is no dull music, please (Camel hover on the brink, but I have fond memories, so they are having a brief reapearance).
Trainee neophyte
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And about the 'cello rock:
[youtube]ZM6Y5Mi4fNE[/youtube]
[youtube]ZM6Y5Mi4fNE[/youtube]
Sheffield Tony
Ghost of the disenchanted
Cellos and rock - it must be time for Apocalyptica !
[youtube]Etns5DS3Txo[/youtube]
[youtube]4sxtHSXOdKA[/youtube]
[youtube]Etns5DS3Txo[/youtube]
[youtube]4sxtHSXOdKA[/youtube]
John Brown
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SDRE.
Wrongfoot
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Fun thread. If you like Muse's electronica sound maybe you'll enjoy the Synthwave genre? It's a post 2000 take on an 80s electronic style, but massively influenced by 80s film and soundtracks Blade Runner, Terminator, Miami Vice, etc. I had no idea it even existed till a couple of years ago. I like Carpenter Brut and Trilogy is a combined release of 3EPs (how 80s an EP release...).
It's all here https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= ... 3I&index=2 see what you think?
It's all here https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= ... 3I&index=2 see what you think?
SammyQ
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Calm down lads - and play some early Clannad. Anything around 1982, give or take a year. :-"
Sam
Sam
Droogs
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Wrongfoot":3acz5noj said:
Synthwave is really good as a genre, quite foreboding at times but for me proper synth stuff by Kraftwerk, Isao Tomita, JM Jarre, and of course the grandaddies of them all Tangerine Dream.
So lucky this year as a birthday treat and to give me something to aim for during chemo my missus manage to get us tickets to go see TD in Oct in Glasgow. So hopefully I will finally get to see my favourite band after 40 years of trying and having previously had tickets then missed 5 shows 'cos the Army thought I would enjoy some cesspool somewhere else in the world with people shooting at me.
I recently discovered a new artist, Polish chap called Madis. really good stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izY4oz ... adio=1&t=3
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Droogs":n8847uuq said:
All new to me - thank you. I am currently sampling Carpenter Brut, Kavinsky and Perterbator - will let you know how I get on. It is Mother's Day here today (yes, I know - they do everything differently), so I may not get a chance to listen in peace, but soon...
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