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engineer one

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ok so you finally have to admit that the planes need to be used and then put away, not always on show. so you start to think about the kind of
cabinet or box to put them in. :?

often people make boxes like the old fashioned woodworkers floor box, but is this the best for today. you kind of think your planes should be above
the work surface, and then there is also the idea of wanting it to be
big enough but not to big.

seems to me a box/cabinet taking planes up to say an No 8,, and the relevant saws, and chisels needs to be at least 38 in wide( 900 mm)
but how tall. or do you make it that high, and store the planes vertically?
that way you could make the box 2ft x2ft (600x600 mm),
but then how do you move them in and out easily?

i'm looking to do frame and panel, but any other ideas?

hopefully this is the right place to post, since it actually does relate to
hand tools. :lol: :lol:

maybe my first new year project, after the great tidy up :cry:

all the best for the "festive " season
paul :wink: :-k
 

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javier,
thats an interesting thought and i agree it needs to move.
not sure about the top box though, too much like my
mechanics toolboxes and top box.

the one thing you do find is that any box that you build, you
then put things on top of. Never enough storage :lol: :lol:

course the other thing is it has to be a size to go through my
doors and around the corner into the corridor. since my
workshop is not permanent yet its another consideration. :?

like the design and the krenov thoughts.

paul :wink:
 

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Paul,

This is one of those "how long is a piece of string" ones. Really the answer depends on the individual, which is why it's such a bloomin' nightmare to get right. All I can say is, make it bigger than you think you need and read all the available stuff you can find about what others have done to give you ideas. Possibly of what not to do, in some cases... Should be a few threads in the archive to start you off. FWIW, my story so far.

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so what you're saying alf is that i will never get off the rocky slope.
i'll always be buying tools.
surely the hope is that we will only now buy tools that we need :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ?

i understand the need to make it bigger, but have always wondered
how the Studley guy knew what to build and how big, let alone
getting it all in.

honestly i only wanted to build a box for a few hand tools.
my power tool box is (cupboard) is too small already, and i'm only
an amateur!!!!!!!!!! :tool:

still i will now look again at my FWW book on toolchests and then figure how it is going to work for me.
thanks again folks, now if only i can stop rob lee from getting more
tools i want onto the market place i will be able to make this box last for at least a year :lol: :lol:
paul
 

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so what you're saying alf is that i will never get off the rocky slope.
Nah. What Alf is saying is that she, like Philly, believe that they have sufficient tools and will not be looking to add more to their collections. That the time has come to build that final tool cabinet, where all will have a special place forever. That the time has come to stop attending fleas, stop reading mags for their tool content and, above all, stop reading reviews of tools.

If you believe that ..... :lol:

Regards from Perth

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LOL Derek! :lol:
Look, I don't need any more tools. :^o
Philly :D
awaiting delivery of his 140N
 

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What Alf is saying is that she, like Philly, believe that they have sufficient tools and will not be looking to add more to their collections. That the time has come to build that final tool cabinet, where all will have a special place forever. That the time has come to stop attending fleas, stop reading mags for their tool content and, above all, stop reading reviews of tools.
As it happens, I had reached that point. Then the whole reviewing thing kicked off and rendered it all a non-starter. A wide range of tools from which to choose are like a reference library for the tool reviewer... :whistle: But I made a semi-resolution this morning - next year, unless there's an actual task I can't perform without it, no new tools. I hardly ever get to car boot sales any more, so that's not a problem. Nope, it's timber for me in 2006.

Paul, I believe Studley was in the latter stages of his career when he built his, so his kit was pretty much set I'd have thought.

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Alf are you trying to tell us that next year when the sun is shining on a sunday morning you will still be in bed and not at a car booty :roll: :roll: .what will you do when you have cleaned and sharpened all your tools .
well lads and lasses it looks like the end of the world is next year .

frank :shock:
 

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Alf":1rf5tbxk said:
Paul, I believe Studley was in the latter stages of his career when he built his, so his kit was pretty much set I'd have thought.
Cheers, Alf
As well, I cannot imagine this was Studley's only toolbox. What did he use before? I do not remember ever reading what preceeded this chest.

A chest like his is the culmination of the craft, not the beginning. Tis a work of immense proportions.

And Alf...not quite a quest for less. But I feel you could be headed in that direction :lol:

But you have an out.
unless there's an actual task I can't perform without it, no new tools
I cannot imagine a project in which I could not justify something new. The challenge is realizing that you really have enough to do anything you'll ever build already--and probably three of most everything in the handtool department :wink:

Take care, Mike
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aw come on mike there is always a way to justify it.

the problem comes when we look elsewhere and see what some smart ar*e has made with a penknife and cigarette lighter.

now surely this is a tongue in cheek emoticon :whistle:

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MikeW":zvuve2ln said:
But you have an out.
Well I'm not daft. I know you lot; you'd be throwing it back in my face if I so much as bought a new bandsaw blade if I didn't work in the let-out clause from the get go. :roll: :lol:

Frank, the ways things went this year, I could safely go to a myriad of car boots without being in danger of finding anything worth buying. :(

The FWW article about Studley's chest is available here and a couple of pics in addition to the usual one you see everywhere here, fwiw.

Cheers, Alf
 

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I'm in need of a tool box for my:-
Table saw
bandsaw
Chop saw
P/Thicknesser

but I am concerned whether the castors can take the weight :)
 

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engineer one":1mpfe6ks said:
the problem comes when we look elsewhere and see what some smart ar*e has made with a penknife and cigarette lighter.
"Saint" Roy Underhill is a case in point. He commonly performs task with saw and chisel, freehand, that would have the rest of us (especially those of us with "large working sets") running for specialised tools.

BugBear (who has ben lucky enough to have been sent some tapes of St Roy)
 

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bugbear":3j7ug3hn said:
"Saint" Roy Underhill is a case in point. He commonly performs task with saw and chisel, freehand, that woul;d have the rest of us (especially those of us with "large working sets") running for specialised tools.

BugBear (who has ben lucky enough to have been sent some tapes of St Roy)
I agree that we could all get along with a minimum of tools. Even though I have a large selection (collection?) of tools, if forced to chose I could pick a half dozen of my favorites that would allow me to complete 95% of my projects.

As for the rest of the rest of the tools in my shop? The hobby is definitely a nice justification for all of those tools that look and feel oh-so-nice and perform well above the standards my work.

If I were to make a tool chest, I'd size it to contain enough of my tools to finish a large project but I wouldn't try to size it to contain everything . . . that would only lead to frustration with future purchases that wouldn't fit into the chest.
 

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ydb1md":btwcrqzu said:
....but I wouldn't try to size it to contain everything . . . that would only lead to frustration with future purchases that wouldn't fit into the chest.
Now this may sound wierd, but I did discover the other day that eBay can be used to sell tools :shock: as well as buying. That means that when you have all the tools you need, and when you get that better plane, you can sell :shock: the inferior one to make room in the tool chest......

......only kidding!!! :wink:

Happy Christmas:ho2
 

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Jarviser":3b3z1zgk said:
Now this may sound wierd, but I did discover the other day that eBay can be used to sell tools :shock: as well as buying. That means that when you have all the tools you need, and when you get that better plane, you can sell :shock: the inferior one to make room in the tool chest......

......only kidding!!! :wink:

Happy Christmas:ho2
Man! Had me worried there for a minute.... :lol:
Philly :D
 

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Now this may sound wierd, but I did discover the other day that eBay can be used to sell tools as well as buying. That means that when you have all the tools you need, and when you get that better plane, you can sell the inferior one to make room in the tool chest......

......only kidding!!!

Happy Christmas

Woooo :shock: :shock: :shock: Steady on. Dont let my other half hear you say that!!!!
8-[

Lee
 

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one machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man. ~Elbert Hubbard, 1923


Nice .sig!

BugBear
Thanks. It was most appropriate after starting to slide down the Hand Tool slope. Lee- waiting to open the box from axminster that SWMBO has ordered. :wink:

Lee.
 

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