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Lie-Nielsen No. 041 or Veritas medium shoulder plane

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Derek S

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Hey all

I would like to know what you guys think on which shoulder plane i should go for, i've never owned 1 before and sadly where i live theirs no places that stock them so i can go test them out, what i would like to know is what are your experiances and which you prefer between the 3 shoulder planes my choices are:
1. Lie-Nielsen No. 041 Small Shoulder Plane
2. VERITAS Medium Shoulder Plane
3. VERITAS Small Shoulder Plane
but my feeling on the veritas small shoulder planes is that its a bit on the small side after looking at measurements and side by side pics. I even considered the new stanley sweetheart shoulder plane but after reading a few reviews they didn't really rate it that highly the overall picture was that stanley where on the right track but ended up producing a less than average tool when it could have been a very good tool by rushing it. Any advice would be very helpful in making a decision.

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When I was agonising over the same decision, I had decided to go for the Veritas medium, with its innovative design.
But what I actually did was to make a little one myself, and buy a reasonably priced secondhand Record 073. In practice, I use them both and find that it does really help to have one delicate little plane and also something with a bit of heft to it.
Sorry if this isn't very helpful!
 

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Derek S":23oyarti said:
Hey all

I would like to know what you guys think on which shoulder plane i should go for, i've never owned 1 before and sadly where i live theirs no places that stock them so i can go test them out, what i would like to know is what are your experiances and which you prefer between the 3 shoulder planes my choices are:
1. Lie-Nielsen No. 041 Small Shoulder Plane
2. VERITAS Medium Shoulder Plane
3. VERITAS Small Shoulder Plane
but my feeling on the veritas small shoulder planes is that its a bit on the small side after looking at measurements and side by side pics. I even considered the new stanley sweetheart shoulder plane but after reading a few reviews they didn't really rate it that highly the overall picture was that stanley where on the right track but ended up producing a less than average tool when it could have been a very good tool by rushing it. Any advice would be very helpful in making a decision.

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Derek
Hopefully Derek there's a member not too far away from you who may have something you can try. Think there's quite a few people from your neck of the woods.
 

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i usually get all my tools from the internet as do many on here i would imagine but the closest i know of that stock both planes i'm intrested in is axminster in cheshire which is a good 2 1/2-3hrs away, their is a decent little shop in middlesborough called cleveland woodcraft but sadly they don't hold any of the high end woodworking tools in stock although they can get it for you but its quicker to order and online and most of the time its cheaper.
 

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Derek S":1mimdj7d said:
1. Lie-Nielsen No. 041 Small Shoulder Plane - 15.8mm wide
2. VERITAS Medium Shoulder Plane - 18mm wide
3. VERITAS Small Shoulder Plane - 12.7mm wide
4. Clifton No.410 - 18mm wide;
5. Clifton No.420 - 19mm wide.
Don't forget your local (hammer) :mrgreen:

Cheers, Vann.
 

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I'd go for the Veritas medium because in my experience it's highly accurate and easier/quicker to set up and adjust, and is just the right size for the vast majority of jobs. A tool for using rather than for looking at.

The little Clifton is lovely, though the very narrow mouth makes it a bit specialist - only for the finest trimming. Haven't tried the bigger Clifton.
 

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I was going to buy the Veritas when a relative gave me three old wooden rebate planes in very good condition.

I cleaned them up with soap and water, flooded them with natural Linseed oil,taken just a smidgen off the base to ensure level and after a sharpening they have performed very well. I have now acquired all sizes from a very delicate 1/4 inch upto a 2 inch size in 1/4 inch increments...wonderful and change from £45.

Al
 

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Don't ignore the Clifton 3110 - three planes in one. 6"x1 1/8" shoulder plane, bullnose plane and chisel plane (never used the last one!). Nice size, versatile, very well made. Highly recommended, from experience.
 

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Cheshirechappie":4frfzl03 said:
Don't ignore the Clifton 3110 - three planes in one. 6"x1 1/8" shoulder plane, bullnose plane and chisel plane (never used the last one!). Nice size, versatile, very well made. Highly recommended, from experience.
+1. Was using mine last week - works really well. I also have the Clifton #410 which works equally well.

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 

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I have the Veritas shoulder plane and it is fantastic. LN obviously makes a good tool as well but I bought the Veritas as it was a bit more refined and well thought out IMHO...
 

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