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MF MDF would you use this for kitchen carcases

I need to start my kitchen soon and I am looking to get the materials ordered
 

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Hi John,

I've used both melamine faced mdf and chipboard for carcasses. see if there is a price difference between them. every mass produced kitchen carcass will be chipboard. happy edging!

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John,
One solution to consider is whether to buy your carcasses or make them. I have found that buying the carcass can be cost effective provided you get all of the features you need. Ready built carcass in standard sizes can be had from about £32 onwards leaving you to produce either the specialist items or just the doors and drawers.

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I thought i would make my own as we have a number of special sizes
The choice for me is what to use MFC or Mf MDF or the third choice is MR MDF and Paint we intend to paint the face frames and doors anyway
The how long it takes time factor doe'sent matter as the job is for ourselves
 

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John, it depends on what colour you want for the carcasses. If white then use MFC as its cheap and easy to clean. If another colour then plain MDF and paint. Use edging for a better finish. I'm using oak faced MDF with Aquacote as the finish as I don't like paint.
 

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MFC is lighter than MDF and would be my preference for carcases. I'd look at getting the pieces cut and if needed lipped by a company like Cutwrights as good quality MFC (Egger) only comes in Jumbo sheets - 2800 x 2070mm which are a bit of a struggle to handle on your own as they weigh around 65kg

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I work in the Kitchen Industry and I would look around for a company in your area who make MTM carcasses. Whole lot of work that somebody with the proper setup can produce for the same price you'd pay for the raw materials. MFC is the choice of almost all in the industry.

I'd suggest you focus your time and effort on the elements that will be on show.

We use a company called Handcraft in Thrapston, they'll make anything in any size in any available board colour from either Egger or Kronospan. I'm sure there will be somebody local to your area. Check out their site it will give you a window on what a good carcass manufacturer will provide, personally I think they are exceptional and if I was going to make my own kitchen I wouldn't dream of making my own carcasses. Having said that they are only boxes after all and not much of a challenge to knock up.

http://www.handcraftkitchencompany.co.uk/
 

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fluffflinger":tl59ldkq said:
I work in the Kitchen Industry and I would look around for a company in your area who make MTM carcasses. Whole lot of work that somebody with the proper setup can produce for the same price you'd pay for the raw materials. MFC is the choice of almost all in the industry.

I'd suggest you focus your time and effort on the elements that will be on show.

We use a company called Handcraft in Thrapston, they'll make anything in any size in any available board colour from either Egger or Kronospan. I'm sure there will be somebody local to your area. Check out their site it will give you a window on what a good carcass manufacturer will provide, personally I think they are exceptional and if I was going to make my own kitchen I wouldn't dream of making my own carcasses. Having said that they are only boxes after all and not much of a challenge to knock up.

http://www.handcraftkitchencompany.co.uk/
Any idea of the price for a standard 500 base unit ???
 

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Off the top of my head I think we are paying about £40 plus the vodka and tonic for a 500 highline base cab.
 

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johndf,

I do understand that you want to do these yourself but it is really a matter of time vs professional quality finish vs speed.

Others have also suggested that you consider getting the carcasses made by a specialist. If that is a no go then consider using the following to get the panels cut and the bits ready for your asssembly

http://www.wrightscarpentry.com/index.html

They might even deliver.

best of luck

AL
 

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Richard, it sounds like you know what you are talking about. So don't take this the wrong way, it's simply a straight question.

My experience of having had two new kitchens in 20 years is that the main point of wear is the top edge of the bottom shelf. Stuff gets dragged across it and you are soon though heh melamine to the chipboard.
So, do these top end manufacturers lip all the front edges with 3mm of solid wood, which is what I'd do if I were making my own, or is the 1mm edging the standard?

I'm no kitchen expert, but I did fit one last summer and the conclusion I came to was they were all fairly run-of-the-mill boxes with nice fronts.

I'm faced with installing my own within (I hope) the next year or two, and, as a keen cook ( I didn't get this shape on Pot Noodles), I want it to be good quality. So this is a learning curve for me.

So please, what marks a good carcase out from an also-ran?
S
 

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beech1948":25foeurr said:
. . . If that is a no go then consider using the following to get the panels cut and the bits ready for your asssembly

http://www.wrightscarpentry.com/index.html

They might even deliver.

best of luck

AL
The same company I suggested - and yes they do offer delivery.

Cost are roughly £70 / jumbo sheet, £3 /m for 2mm edging and £2 / m for 0.4mm edging plus VAT

Steve
 

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phil.p":3s9z9ux4 said:
Sorry, I can't do the cryptic ones..
Teckel is probably referring to Steve Maskerys query about protecting the edges of carcases - a face frame covers the edge of the carcase - however this has nothing to do with the OP's question - Steve should have really started a new thread rather than hijack this one.
 

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promhandicam":3ub79o13 said:
phil.p":3ub79o13 said:
Sorry, I can't do the cryptic ones..
Teckel is probably referring to Steve Maskerys query about protecting the edges of carcases - a face frame covers the edge of the carcase - however this has nothing to do with the OP's question - Steve should have really started a new thread rather than hijack this one.
Thank you =D>
 

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Sorry, nowhere in S.M.'s does it mention "in frame kitchen"
I have a better idea now of what one is ......but "in frame kitchen is the only job" still makes no sense.
 
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