thecoder
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To lay tiles (ceramic) on a wooden floor (kitchen).
Dave
Dave
Hi Roydoorframe":3k62e9pe said:Sorry to hijack, but as there are some knowledgeable tilers already on this thread I'm going to jump in with my own question.
I've got concrete floors throughout the down stairs of my house. The extension is 'beam and block' screeded over. Trouble is, there is a man-hole / drain cover in the middle of it, flush with the screed. Obviously, the man-hole used to be outdoors in the garden before the extension was built, and was raised to meet the floor level.
I want to tile throughout, but need some ideas how to keep the man-hole accessible.
Hope I explained that well enough.
So.... any ideas?
Roy
They didn't do it properly IMO :shock:I had our kitchen floor replaced and overlaid with two layers of 18mm ply, then 10mm thick limestone tiles over the top. It's cracking up like a pineapple. Si.
They did a pretty good job in 'The Great Escape'! I think it was tunnel 'Dick' that ran from the ablutions! :mrgreen:Lons":2jvosgqh said:doorframe":2jvosgqh said:Sorry to hijack, but as there are some knowledgeable tilers already on this thread I'm going to jump in with my own question.
I've got concrete floors throughout the down stairs of my house. The extension is 'beam and block' screeded over. Trouble is, there is a man-hole / drain cover in the middle of it, flush with the screed. Obviously, the man-hole used to be outdoors in the garden before the extension was built, and was raised to meet the floor level.
I want to tile throughout, but need some ideas how to keep the man-hole accessible.
Hope I explained that well enough.
So.... any ideas?
Roy
Hi Roy
I haven't had to deal with that problem though I have seen manholes in older properties. so probably can't help much. I'm very surprised that the building inspector let you get away with that or that the builder would even do it. Your extension can't be that old if it's beam and block?
The correct way would be to redirect the drainage outside the extension and construct at least one new manhole.
That said, as a builder - were it my property, I would look first at the possibility of moving it. If not practical then I'd lower it and construct a removable framework above it, flush with the floor so that the rest of the floor could be tiled plus the seperate insert. The grout line around this would need to be silicone or a removable grout.
I assume that a sealed screw down manhole cover has been used or you would get smells even if it's only surface water and that access is not regular but only for emergency.
Personally I couldn't live with it and would suffer the mess and expense to put it right.
They didn't do it properly IMO :shock:I had our kitchen floor replaced and overlaid with two layers of 18mm ply, then 10mm thick limestone tiles over the top. It's cracking up like a pineapple. Si.
Bob
Didn't stop me :lol: absolutely loads of pipework under my floor but as the kitchen is below the bathrooms, I took the view that in an extreme situation, I would access through the kitchen ceiling.Benchwayze - Wish I could tile my Bathroom floor, but there are pipes and stuff under the floorboards. A bit of a problem if ever there was need to access them. Yes?
I've only ever encountered this once Jason and that was a very large extension. There can be some tollerance in falls despite what the manuals say and usually a way around it. Usually a manhole inside a building is due to laziness or cost saving IMO. Probably not a feasible option for the OP to move it now, but as a builder, I certainly would do it or I'd fret about it forever :roll:jasonB":2m2jcnd2 said:Its not always possible to divert the drain around an extension as the longer run can reduce the fall to below the minimum required
J
Had to laugh at that Jason as it happened to me:My first job back this year was to take up 40m2 of limestone I put down about a year ago as the client decided she would prefer a woodfloor, took me three long days to kango it up :roll:
I also have weakened joists beneath (Braced with mild-steel bar) The plumbers who did the installation couldn't get the right amount of fall on the pipes. They had to cut rather more than they should have from the floor joists on the landing. the pipes couldn't go much lower. Hence my adding the metal to the joists, just in case. I put access hatches in the floor too, so I burned my bridges there!Lons":3duxs9n5 said:Didn't stop me :lol: absolutely loads of pipework under my floor but as the kitchen is below the bathrooms, I took the view that in an extreme situation, I would access through the kitchen ceiling.Benchwayze - Wish I could tile my Bathroom floor, but there are pipes and stuff under the floorboards. A bit of a problem if ever there was need to access them. Yes?
Bob
Wimp :lol: :lol: :lol:Benchwayze":1tmkspyb said:I don't think I'd want to break through plaster-board now though. At my age I have to get young bloods to do that sort of thing, and it's expensive! :wink: