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I appreciate you are looking for a ready made jig but this may help other who are looking.

I made a jig, there is lots of advice on the web. The problem I found was sourcing suitable metal guides. There are many machinery bushes which are suitable but expensive. I bought some oillube bushes from online bearings. The come in many different internal and external dimensions and different lengths. Both flanged or plain, metric or imperial. My 6mm ones cost £0.72 each plus £3 postage plus vat. It adds up so I bought a selection of sizes.

I have no connection to this company, there are others.

Here is a link to the website

Link to the bushes
 

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I appreciate you are looking for a ready made jig but this may help other who are looking.

I made a jig, there is lots of advice on the web. The problem I found was sourcing suitable metal guides. There are many machinery bushes which are suitable but expensive. I bought some oillube bushes from online bearings. The come in many different internal and external dimensions and different lengths. Both flanged or plain, metric or imperial. My 6mm ones cost £0.72 each plus £3 postage plus vat. It adds up so I bought a selection of sizes.

I have no connection to this company, there are others.

Here is a link to the website

Link to the bushes


Thank you, very kind

In my case the biggest problem is that I don't have equipment to build the jig, I think you need a good drill press to create the holes to insert the bushings, some I have seen that use a wooden block to build the jig. What metal guides did you use ? I'd like to see a picture of the jig you built.


The simplest guide example to replicate I think is this, it looks like a perforated metal block: Professional 8mm

 
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I use one of these and they work really well:


Thank you very much for the advice

I know the model, The price is great, I'm evaluating it, for what I have to do it will be fine, for what I have to do in the end I don't want to spend a lot, the only flaw is that this model does not have a clamp system to tighten it to the table to be drilled, you have to hold it with your hands with the risk that it will move with the force of the screwdriver.
 

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Marck,
Ciao di nuovo
penso di dover spiegare che il mio lavoro è sempre stato su misura, spesso devo finire per altre persone ..... ho dovuto farlo in una biblioteca privata a Los Angeles ...
non avevamo la possibilità di lavorare con le maschere perché non c'era spazio ... tutto il foro praticato per la vite era fatto a mano libera ....
spesso con il trapano appoggiato a terra .....
Quindi quelle frese che ti ho offerto di guardare dovevano essere usate in un trapano da banco ... (ho sempre indossato il mio camion per questo tipo di lavoro) ... le mie erano di fabbricazione americana perché a quei tempi non c'erano strumenti cinesi disponibili ma gli strumenti sono economici in America, quindi perché ma attrezzature economiche ...
Anche se ho 71 anni sto ancora lavorando e faccio la maggior parte di questo tipo di perforazione per fori a mano libera ... Non possiedo una maschera ...
Ti auguro ogni successo ...
 

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Thank you, very kind

In my case the biggest problem is that I don't have equipment to build the jig, I think you need a good drill press to create the holes to insert the bushings, some I have seen that use a wooden block to build the jig. What metal guides did you use ? I'd like to see a picture of the jig you built.


The simplest guide example to replicate I think is this, it looks like a perforated metal block: Professional 8mm


Thank you, very kind

In my case the biggest problem is that I don't have equipment to build the jig, I think you need a good drill press to create the holes to insert the bushings, some I have seen that use a wooden block to build the jig. What metal guides did you use ? I'd like to see a picture of the jig you built.


The simplest guide example to replicate I think is this, it looks like a perforated metal block: Professional 8mm


I have leant my guide to someone so cannot send a photo. It was very simple, a bit like this one
but with only one dowel hole. I have a drill press and I would find it difficult to make without one. Also it is time consuming, Rutland sell a single hole jig, similar in principle to mine but metal with a Perspex guide for £9.99, sold out at the moment.
 

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[QUOTE = "h-magic, post: 1381665, membro: 31125"]
Ho provato alcune maschere che posso dire che trovi lì la limitazione molto rapidamente.
Ma ti consiglio di togliere il secondo. Si autocentra e si allinea più facilmente dai bordi.

Strumenti per la lavorazione del legno di precisione per Woodpeckers CDDJ14716 Dima per tasselli a croce https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005GLX7AI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HgEuFbEX1MQJ7

FinWell 6/8 / 10mm Lavorazione del legno autocentrante Doweling Jig Positioner Dowel Hole Drilling Guide Locator Tool https://www.amazon.it/dp/B082FHWTFG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GeEuFbGGPD5JS

In bocca al lupo.
[/CITAZIONE]
I have leant my guide to someone so cannot send a photo. It was very simple, a bit like this one
but with only one dowel hole. I have a drill press and I would find it difficult to make without one. Also it is time consuming, Rutland sell a single hole jig, similar in principle to mine but metal with a Perspex guide for £9.99, sold out at the moment.
Marck,
Ciao di nuovo
penso di dover spiegare che il mio lavoro è sempre stato su misura, spesso devo finire per altre persone ..... ho dovuto farlo in una biblioteca privata a Los Angeles ...
non avevamo la possibilità di lavorare con le maschere perché non c'era spazio ... tutto il foro praticato per la vite era fatto a mano libera ....
spesso con il trapano appoggiato a terra .....
Quindi quelle frese che ti ho offerto di guardare dovevano essere usate in un trapano da banco ... (ho sempre indossato il mio camion per questo tipo di lavoro) ... le mie erano di fabbricazione americana perché a quei tempi non c'erano strumenti cinesi disponibili ma gli strumenti sono economici in America, quindi perché ma attrezzature economiche ...
Anche se ho 71 anni sto ancora lavorando e faccio la maggior parte di questo tipo di perforazione per fori a mano libera ... Non possiedo una maschera ...
Ti auguro ogni successo ...
I have leant my guide to someone so cannot send a photo. It was very simple, a bit like this one
but with only one dowel hole. I have a drill press and I would find it difficult to make without one. Also it is time consuming, Rutland sell a single hole jig, similar in principle to mine but metal with a Perspex guide for £9.99, sold out at the moment.


@frank horton

Thank you for the explanations, very kind

Now I decide what to do, among the cheap templates it is difficult to find a precise one, I have read many reviews and each template has its defects, the best ones are dowelmax and jessem, they are the most precise and built with quality materials, unfortunately for me they are too expensive, an alternative is the joint genie even if this template seems more suitable for short boards, compatible with boards from 16 mm up to 27 mm thick

@h-magic

Thanks for your suggestions

With the FinWell 6/8 / 10mm Woodworking from what I understand it is possible to drill only on the edges of the boards:

47ed9c3b852a83427618506567af2c8f.jpg


I need a jig to also drill the facade of the panels:

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In the Woodpeckers Precision Woodworking Tools CDDJ14716 Cross Dowel jig I don't see any adjustment system for the holes

@Jonm

Thank you so much for the advice

Yes I saw the tutorial you showed me to build the template but unfortunately I don't have the tools to build it, about the jig on rutlands I think you are referring to this:

There are other models like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drilling-S...+dowelling&qid=1599401813&s=diy&sr=1-3-spons= 1 & SPLA = = ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQUdTM0E3TjZTMURNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDQzMzgwMUk1R0xRSVZNMEVYQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDc5NTY3M0VWM1dBSjEwMEw3NyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU, for the work I have to do is perhaps not the right template, I have to drill about 60 cm long panels, and in addition to drill the edge of the panel I have to drill the face of the board:

joint genie.jpg


@frank horton, @h-magic, @Jonm

What do you think of a template similar to this one ?

 
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I have the Joint Genie, it's an excellent jig. I don't have experience of the others you are looking at but I would recommend the Joint Genie to anyone.
 

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It hasn't been mentioned but would the Record jig be useful for the OP?
 

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I came across this today
and wondered if this will suit the OP?


Beautiful template, maybe he copied the project to Wolfcraft 4640000, excellent solution of the bearing, sorry I didn't understand the question, what is the OP ?
 

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Beautiful template, maybe he copied the project to Wolfcraft 4640000, excellent solution of the bearing, sorry I didn't understand the question, what is the OP ?
OP is a std abbreviation in forum speak for "Original Poster"

I'm not familar with any dowelling jigs so unware it was a knock off of a commerial design.
 

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I have the Joint Genie, it's an excellent jig. I don't have experience of the others you are looking at but I would recommend the Joint Genie to anyone.

They say that the Joint Genie is very precise, perhaps it is impractical, it does not provide a clamp system to fix it to the table, for the piece of furniture I have to build it may be a bit small, the Joint Genie is 8 cm long, the thickness is adjustable , from 16 mm up to 27 mm, on a 60 cm long panel I don't know if it is suitable

It hasn't been mentioned but would the Record jig be useful for the OP?

Is this the Record jig ? the OP I don't know what it is.

 

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Marck. Yes OP just means you. Original Poster.
Yes that's the Record Jig.
 

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OP is a std abbreviation in forum speak for "Original Poster"

I'm not familar with any dowelling jigs so unware it was a knock off of a commerial design.

Sorry unfortunately I don't speak English, I translate with google, Original poster I don't know what it means, maybe it refers to the forum thread, I didn't understand your question.

Regarding the template, it is his invention, but it looks a lot like the wolfcraft model.
 

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Marck. Yes OP just means you. Original Poster.
Yes that's the Record Jig.

I think it is a vintage model, I have also seen the Stanley No. 59 and the VTG WODEN X190, I don't know if they are suitable for the cabinet I have to assemble.
 

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Yes it is an old model. You can still find them on EBAY and other websites. But it is quite expensive. Often around £40, about 45 Euros. I believe it is a well liked jig from older conversations on this forum.
Do not worry about using Google translate. We can make the best of an English Italian talk.
:D

Sì, è un vecchio modello. Puoi ancora trovarli su EBAY e altri siti web. Ma è piuttosto costoso. Spesso intorno a £ 40, circa 45 euro. Credo che sia un jig molto apprezzato da vecchie conversazioni su questo forum.
Non preoccuparti di utilizzare Google Translate. Possiamo trarre il meglio da un discorso inglese italiano.

;)
 

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Yes it is an old model. You can still find them on EBAY and other websites. But it is quite expensive. Often around £40, about 45 Euros. I believe it is a well liked jig from older conversations on this forum.
Do not worry about using Google translate. We can make the best of an English Italian talk.
:D

Sì, è un vecchio modello. Puoi ancora trovarli su EBAY e altri siti web. Ma è piuttosto costoso. Spesso intorno a £ 40, circa 45 euro. Credo che sia un jig molto apprezzato da vecchie conversazioni su questo forum.
Non preoccuparti di utilizzare Google Translate. Possiamo trarre il meglio da un discorso inglese italiano.

;)


Thank you, very kind

Yes, I checked on youtube to see how the Record Jig works but I found nothing about it, jigs with a good build quality and a little more professional have a high cost there is little to do, I really like the joint genie too if it has with high cost.Thank you again.


Ti ringrazio, molto gentile

Si ho controllato su youtube per vedere come funziona il Record Jig ma non ho trovato niente al riguardo, i jig con una buona qualità costruttiva e un pochino più professionali hanno un costo alto c'è poco da fare, mi piace molto il joint genie anche se ha con costo elevato.Grazie ancora.
 

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[QUOTE = "h-magic, post: 1381665, membro: 31125"]
Ho provato alcune maschere che posso dire che trovi lì la limitazione molto rapidamente.
Ma ti consiglio di togliere il secondo. Si autocentra e si allinea più facilmente dai bordi.

Strumenti per la lavorazione del legno di precisione per Woodpeckers CDDJ14716 Dima per tasselli a croce https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005GLX7AI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HgEuFbEX1MQJ7

FinWell 6/8 / 10mm Lavorazione del legno autocentrante Doweling Jig Positioner Dowel Hole Drilling Guide Locator Tool https://www.amazon.it/dp/B082FHWTFG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GeEuFbGGPD5JS

In bocca al lupo.
[/CITAZIONE]






@frank horton

Thank you for the explanations, very kind

Now I decide what to do, among the cheap templates it is difficult to find a precise one, I have read many reviews and each template has its defects, the best ones are dowelmax and jessem, they are the most precise and built with quality materials, unfortunately for me they are too expensive, an alternative is the joint genie even if this template seems more suitable for short boards, compatible with boards from 16 mm up to 27 mm thick

@h-magic

Thanks for your suggestions

With the FinWell 6/8 / 10mm Woodworking from what I understand it is possible to drill only on the edges of the boards:

View attachment 91673

I need a jig to also drill the facade of the panels:

View attachment 91674

In the Woodpeckers Precision Woodworking Tools CDDJ14716 Cross Dowel jig I don't see any adjustment system for the holes

@Jonm

Thank you so much for the advice

Yes I saw the tutorial you showed me to build the template but unfortunately I don't have the tools to build it, about the jig on rutlands I think you are referring to this:

There are other models like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drilling-S...+dowelling&qid=1599401813&s=diy&sr=1-3-spons= 1 & SPLA = = ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQUdTM0E3TjZTMURNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDQzMzgwMUk1R0xRSVZNMEVYQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDc5NTY3M0VWM1dBSjEwMEw3NyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU, for the work I have to do is perhaps not the right template, I have to drill about 60 cm long panels, and in addition to drill the edge of the panel I have to drill the face of the board:

View attachment 91675

@frank horton, @h-magic, @Jonm

What do you think of a template similar to this one ?


You are correct about your comments. They both have limitations.

I had issues when drilling as find it hard to drill straight.
so I ended using a router with the fence.
Maybe you should look at using a router as an alternative.

Is this a one off job your looking at doing?
 

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