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After seeing Mark Raby colouring items at the weekend, I've realised I want to go beyond applying finishing/walnut oil and/or a stick of Liberon wax with my turnings. Trouble is I don't know where to start really.

I know I want to try spirit stains and so need sanding sealer on top. I'm then lost in a sea of oil, wax and lacquer!

I've even looked at buffing wheels but again don't know where to start.

Can anyone point me in the right direction i.e. buy this and that, use this and buff or use that and don't?
 
If you want to dip your toe in the water then buy the spirit stain trial pack, you get most of the colours in small bottles, plenty to "have a go" with.

I have watched Mark's video and it has some very useful info, but don't be tied to it, colouring can be approached from a wide variety of angles, it isn't something that is easy to explain, pretty much you have to jump in and see what happens, it can be daunting, you spend some considerable time sanding and finishing a piece, it actually looks pretty good as plain wood, will you now wreck it by the wild unplanned application of some terrible colour combination? These are the thoughts running through your mind I would guess, I know they do for me anyway!

So, learn the colour wheel and what contrasting colours are, learn what colour goes with another and what doesn't (again, this isn't a hard and fast rule, but before you can break rules you need to know them) That way you will at least have a plan before you apply any colour.

Apply your lighter colours first, you can paint dark over light but not the other way round.

Don't be afraid to lay one colour over another or to mix colours in a small pot to create different colours.

You can wipe some colour away with meths, but in open grained wood like Ash, the dye will penetrate right through the pores so don't expect to clean right up. Close grained woods are a little easier, but even they have end grain and thus pores too.

Once you are happy with the colour, you have a choice of finish, rattle can lacquer, use a sealer first, I use Chestnuts range. followed by either the gloss or the satin, spray light coats to avoid runs and washing colour about as the lacquer will dissolve the colour if it is applied to heavily. three coats of gloss should be enough. You can use buffing compound to polish it, be very careful, only light pressure and check it to avoid going through the lacquer.

Finishing oil, this is easiest as it will not affect the colour, use three or four coats allowing several hours between coats to allow polymerization to occur, then once completely dry (I allow three days) buff it on a buffing system if you have one, other wise cut it back gently with a nyweb pad and polish on the lathe, obviously you will need to leave a spigot in place for remounting during this process.

Above all, just have a go, try different things, Phil Irons told me he coloured his stuff prior to sanding, he gets wonderful effects that way, I tried it and all the colour dissapeared! Mark says apply colour first, then sealer, but applying sealer first can give you a thinner, more subtle colour, so again, try different approaches. Sure, you are going to do stuff that is awful to look at, but also you will make some great things too.

To see some of the stuff I have done in this regard, check out my blog and be sure to visit the older posts button at the bottom of the page.

Have fun!
 
On the buffing wheel front I use the Chestnut system. I don't think there is much to choose between the Chestnut and Beal systems so go with what you can easily mount on your lathe. You can assemble your own but the savings are not worth the effort from what I remember.

I have tried the spirit stains and maybe it is just me but have not ended up with much I liked. The spirit stains will show any imperfections off nicely :) I did do some very fine rice bowls in sycamore with spirit stain and these were popular.

BM
 
Some really good advice here. The only things I can add are to firstly, make sure your turning and finishing are top notch first, because as has already been said, adding colour will highlight rather than hide poor finish and torn grain.

Second is restraint. So much of this work ends up looking like it has been exposed to some sort of industrial explosion in a paint factory!! Look at the work of some of the best at it like Nick Agar. Notice he will usually pick 2 or 3 complimentary colours and gently fade from one to the next. A great example are his sunset Viking bowls.

Finally, make sure whatever finish you choose has a different base to the colour so it doesn't ruin all your hard work.

Hope this helps

Richard
 
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