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Mickfb

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Morning all.

I am trying to find a decent woodworking mag. All the ones I have tried seem to be the same. They never seem to go into depth on any article. Has anyone tried Fine Woodworking. I would be interested in people's thoughts.

Many thanks

Mick
 
I have had FW in the past and used to buy it every month. That and F&C were the only 2 i bought every month. Both were the most interesting/ informative IMO. :)
 
I like it but I question the value at over a fiver a copy. There is a thread about the online archive being free now so you can check out a few and see what you think. Start at the most recent on there and work back because there have been a few style changes over the years. I bought the dvd archive so have flicked through a fair few issues. It could really do with an index across all issues, so if you were looking for something on router sleds, you could see what issues to go to. The website is pretty good for that though.
 
You have to say that Fine Woodworking is beautifully produced. There are lots of pin-sharp, big glossy photos and professionally-drawn sketches and diagrams. However, once you get past those, I'm not sure that the information is any deeper than in any of the other woodworking magazines. Many of the authors are very experienced and highly competent craftspeople, but some of the articles do seem a bit 'abbreviated' at times, though no more so that in the other mags.

Another significant downside of taking the American mags is that the advertising content isn't always of much relevance. At least with the local mags, the advertisers are local, too; since the ads are about a third to a half of the mag, you might as well see ads for stuff you might actually buy.

I have bought a few copies of FWW over the years, but don't any more. That's not because I regard it as rubbish - it isn't - but for the reasons above, mainly the adverts one. That, and because the same sort of articles start coming round again after a few years. There's only so many bench plane comparative trials you want to read - once you discover that expensive planes work better than cheap ones, you've got the jist, really.
 
Give it a try for a few months. IMO there is so much good free content on-line I don't feel the need to buy a magazine very often.
 
Books better value by far. Many of the classics can be bought 2nd hand for less than the price of a mag, with 10 to 100 times the content.
 
Magazines and books complement each other, they are not necessarily in conflict.
FWW is the grandaddy of all ww mags. I have a whole bunch from about #46 up until 5 or 6 years ago. IMO there was a golden era in the 80 and 90s, but - and here is the crucial bit - that was also when I was earning my stripes. We all go through that, and yes, we all get fed up when we read the "5 ways to make a drawer" article for the umpteenth time, usually accompanied by a selection of photographs of tablesaws showing appalling practices.
Mags are great for inspiration for up-and-coming woodies and books are great for reference (everyone should have an Ellis, something, to my shame, I've only recently realised).
Mags are appropriate to a phase of one's development. Personally I don't think FWW is as good as it was, but I'm not in the same place I was when I read it avidly.
I just hope that my writings inspire someone, somewhere, along the enjoyable road of creating thing that didn't exist before we made them.
S
 
I bought a DVD of Fine Woodworking from ebay a couple of years ago, it has issues from 1 to 201 (although there are now versions available that go to more recent issues). It also has a search facility. I only paid about £5 for it. It's not as nice as reading a magazine but the information is still there, and is really interesting to browse through. For that sort of price it's worth getting, then you can decide whether or not to buy the magazines, or the updated DVD.

K
 
The problem with that, GO, is that that DVD is a pirated copy. The owners of the intellectual property receive nothing for their labours and what profits there are go to criminals.
And before I am accused of Pot calling Kettle black, I admit that I, too, have used software for which I have not paid. I don't do it now, of course, because once you start to create intellectual property you begin to realise the significance of piracy. And if creators do not receive a reasonable return for their work, there is no incentive to produce it.
I understand only too well the attraction of buying a "hot" copy, but it really is not helpful in the grand scheme of things.
S
 
Hi Steve,
I didn't know at the time that I was buying a pirated copy - it seemed like a normal ebay site just like ones you can still see (by the dozen). I have seen the newer versions with more issues costing £58 so it's still a good deal, since £58 would only buy you about 15 issues. However I've just done a quick search and the version I bought is no longer on ebay. Perhaps the seller has had a slap on the wrist? Perhaps he deserved it?

K
 
That is fair enough and it is not an easy subject to discuss, for obvious reasons.
But we should all be aware of what markets we operate within.
S
 
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