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Famag, Fisch, Colt or other. Best Lip and Spur or Forstner

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eoinsgaff

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Hey everyone,
Is there a general order of preference between Famag, Fisch or Colt bits? There is relatively good value to be got with Fisch but I wonder if that’s at a quality price.
Or is there another comparable brand to be considered?
Eoin
 

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I have managed to bend the shanks on large Fisch bits in green oak. Likewise Axminster. No experience of Famag or Colt.
 

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I've got some Colt bits and they do the business with no problems. That said, I use an eggbeater drill, which might not be of relevance if you're going to use a power drill.
 

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In modest sizes, Famag. Being HSS they won't die if they get hot (small diam, high rpm), and are available in 0.5mm steps. Won't be easy to sharpen. If entry not a problem Guhring do a 4facet (& it's cobalt too) HSS, not quite as a spur, but the 4 facet point does not wander like a standard morse drill grind. You need a jig to create your own 4 facet points (see Tormek). Larger sizes are a problem; many old jennings augers turn out to have a coarse entry spiral (for softwood) and will sieze in hardwood. I believe some new fine entry spiral augers are on sale at $40-50 a throw...Even modest forstener/sawtooth work quite well with a fettle, if you can use a drill press and don't get them too hot.
 

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Maybe not so much for lip and spur? But Star M are definitely worth a look. Been hugely impressed with their auger bits. I would personally try their lip spur range if i could justify the money for any top range bits as they seem to come on a little cheaper?
The only ones I didn't get on with was a 19mm bit that is designed to prevent tearout on exit. It does that great. Just tears out the entry hole instead. Not a winner for me at least in hardwood. The auger bits I have used are scientific. Also they do a range which suits manual and powered.
No expert obviously.
One downside in uk is supply.
Workshop heaven or go abroad for a bigger range and shipping at fine tools etc
Cheers
 

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I've had really good results with Austrian made fisch bits, they are not cheap but well worth it.
 

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I've got a Famag 10mm drill bit. It cost me £1 per mm in diameter :D. It's an excellent bit and leaves a lovely smooth bore, clean entry and exit and cuts extremely efficiently and quickly. I keep it locked in a safe with all my other valuables as it's too precious to use on actual wood.

I have a relatively cheap set of Heller bits that I keep touched up on the grinder, they work pretty well.
 

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I've got a couple of Fisch's Black series forstner bits. Very impressed. Only used them on oak, walnut and ash up to now, but they leave a very clean finish. 15mm and 19mm.

Bought from Axminster for convenience, but I'll be looking for a cheaper supplier in the future.

Gary.
 

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If you've the cash, the Famag bits are the best you can get. The others I would say are roughly at the same quality level. I've found Fisch ones are slightly undersized, which may even be preferable if you're using a drill press with moderate runout (most have a fair amount). Small sample size but all 5 of mine are about 0.25mm smaller than the marked size.
 
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