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I'm guilty, I use an iPad to make my contributions, and the thing keeps anticipating what I'm writing and completes the words. Drawers usual self populates as draws. Sometimes I just can't face trying to change all the auto-inserted words, other times my schooling which was at a modern comp, where it was a about getting the ideas down and sod it to spelling and grammar kicks in and let's me down woefully. I've Imprived a lot over the years thanks to spell check.
 
phil.p":3tz60hai said:
Why do people refer to drawers as draws? Is it a regional thing? I don't recall drawers being called draws anywhere other than here. :?

Phil,
I think it is because they either cannot spell, (Like my nephew, who was taught via the 'phonetic' spelling system in the nineteen-seventies, and has a few 'blind spots') or they just can't be bothered, when they can use text speak. Eg. M8 and cu l8er. I can't see the problem, as long as they can be understood. Communication is the name of the game.

Winter draws on! :D
 
Benchwayze":2nc8xfey said:
I can't see the problem, as long as they can be understood.

In my experience, the problem is that the set of people who can understand stuff like text speak or homophonous mis-spellings is markedly smaller than the set of people who can understand 'proper' English. For example, my partner is Italian - she speaks pretty much fluent English, can easily communicate with people in the street and only really has a problem with a few esoteric idioms... but still needs to ask me to double-check what people mean when people mis-spell stuff or use similar-but-not-correct words.





On a related note, another thing that at first glance looks like a mis-spelling which I'd only encountered here for a long time - but have seen elsewhere enough to think there's probably something behind it rather than just a typo - is "off." - e.g. when someone writes a BoM or something with phrases like:

50mm M6 hex-head bolts - 6 off.
or
4 off. 2440x1220mm 18mm ply

- Obviously 'of' would fit perfectly well in there and retain the same meaning, but I get the impression it's not that. Or are loads of people really adding an extra 'f' to 'of' for no reason?
 
Jake;

I always knew it as 'off'; eg., 6 "off the list" or the spec.

But I never really had it explained; just accepted it was 'off' :) .
 
Benchwayze":zldzraes said:
Jake;

I always knew it as 'off'; eg., 6 "off the list" or the spec.

But I never really had it explained; just accepted it was 'off' :) .

same here, no idea why.
 
phil.p":2i3x1vr7 said:
Why do people refer to drawers as draws? Is it a regional thing? I don't recall drawers being called draws anywhere other than here. :?

I don't know about regional, In my grandad's day, drawers referred to a ladies underwear as well!

Rodders
 
marcros":1sc623th said:
Benchwayze":1sc623th said:
Jake;

I always knew it as 'off'; eg., 6 "off the list" or the spec.

But I never really had it explained; just accepted it was 'off' :) .

same here, no idea why.

The most obvious example is when a hand crafted, unique item is described as a "one off".

You wouldn't (I hope) call it a "one of".

I don't know the derivation (and can't be bothered to research it).

BugBear
 
Hi

Language, and its associated record, writing, will always evolve. However I believe that evolution is no longer driven by the need for accuracy but by fashion / marketing.

As a forum dedicated to a discipline which errs towards accuracy and tradition I feel we should encourage the use of correct terminology and grammar, not at the expense of alienating members but perhaps with the aim to promote the use of a 'common language'.

Regards Mick
 
phil.p":2kdtt2y2 said:
"4 of 2240 x 1220 x 18MM" What's the problem - I've only taken the "f" off of "off". :)
no good. Traditionally x number off rather than of. It is bad grammar to say of. It sounds as bad as F-of all in the pronunciation old lad. :D :D :D :D
 
It's just laziness, nowadays every thing is speed, even writing, (Do people still write?) I have to admit I hate text speak and have trouble understanding it! I text like I type with the correct words but I am an old git who still uses imperial measurements too. :lol:
 
I can't believe none of you knowledgeable gentlemen know what "off" means on a list of materials :shock:
Off = Order F****** Fast :lol:
 
And it drives me nuts when I hear offen the 'bus. ; I also dislike the missing apostrophe, from 'bus; as short for omnibus! :lol: burrit ain't the end of t'world! (hammer)
 
Benchwayze":33kyugck said:
And it drives me nuts when I hear offen the 'bus. ; I also dislike the missing apostrophe, from 'bus; as short for omnibus! :lol: burrit ain't the end of t'world! (hammer)

I still like to use 'phone with the apostrophe, hate the oozing import 'gotten'.
 
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