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Never tackled a saw handle with a finish like this before:

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Any tips/suggestions before I start ?

Thanks in advance,
Carl
 

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I think I might have had something similar. It looks like beech under some sort of pigmented varnish which has worn away.

On this sort of thing my preference these days is conservation (as a working tool) rather than restoration, so I would probably just wipe it over with some boiled linseed oil once or twice.
If you want something more like back to original showroom condition, I think I would try and get all the old finish off, using turps, meths or stripper, depending on what works, then stain the wood. I'd try van **** crystals fairly strong, to go towards black, maybe two or more times. Then rub down and oil with linseed, or Tru-oil, to get whatever level of gloss you prefer.

Having said all that, it's a much more complicated shape than a plane handle, so could be hard to get looking even.

Do take pictures of whatever you decide!
 
I've got a Taylor Brothers saw with a similar handle.

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At first I though it was a dark wood but it does look like it's stained/varnished beech.

I would also go for the preserving approach, clean lightly with meths or turps, then oil or wax. Could also add back some colour where bare wood is exposed.
 

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Thanks Andy, will share the results.

Mike,
Apologies (phew I didn't snipe), time will tell if it was a bargain or just an expensive handle. Not here yet and the steel on the blade looks very iffy.

You could always make your own :
big-thumbhole-ripsaw-with-custom-sawplate-diy-handle-t55076.html

John,
That's a very nice saw Sir. How do you know it's a Taylor Bros. ? Etching ? Mine also has the "Warranted Superior" Medallion" that I've just discovered was often used on seconds.
 
Yes, it's etched with "Taylor Brothers".
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Unfortunately the saw is not straight.
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I would think that second teir saws having "Warranted Superior" would only be the case when the saw doesn't have any other branding, otherwise it doesn't really make sense, and probably only applies to USA saws.
 

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Mr_P":36gzgfrl said:
Mike,
Apologies (phew I didn't snipe), time will tell if it was a bargain or just an expensive handle. Not here yet and the steel on the blade looks very iffy.

You could always make your own :
big-thumbhole-ripsaw-with-custom-sawplate-diy-handle-t55076.html

Apology unnecessary - it's a free marketplace. In fact, you helped save me from a steepening of the slippery slope, as I had won another auction of a bundle (6) of handsaws which I popped down to Bournemouth yesterday to collect (whilst on a house hunting expedition). However, you have correctly deduced that I love that handle. Thanks for the link - I do have ambitions to make replacement handles for some of my saws, but first I need to become proficient at sharpening. Both skills required, partly through need and partly inspired by Mark Turner's recent post.

Is Andy T's suggestion to achieve what I have heard of as 'ebonising' i.e. make wood appear black? Whatever finish you do decide on, please do posting again with your progress and/or end result.
 
Mike.S":2rvr491e said:
Is Andy T's suggestion to achieve what I have heard of as 'ebonising' i.e. make wood appear black? Whatever finish you do decide on, please do posting again with your progress and/or end result.

I don't think you will actually get a proper black with just the van **** crystals, but it does depend on the underlying wood; I've successfully made plywood look very dark using them.

There is a commonly mentioned technique for ebonising, using steel wool dissolved in vinegar - I must get round to trying it - it might be suitable if you do want a black handle.
 
Thanks Andy T.

Ever since I saw the saw tool porn over at Klaus & pedder's site I've wanted to have a black handle - think their wood was Wenge (the dovetail saw) but I'd like to try ebonising as a cheaper alternative. However, don't wish divert/hijack the thread, so will research further.
 
Most of the time it is ebony. Klaus did some Wenge handles when we started, but it is a PITA to carve and sand, because you need to fill it a few times.

Ebony has become hard to get in good qualities, that we need. Not only it is very expensive, but there is not enough complete dar ebony at all.

Cheers
Pedder
 
John,

That's a shame, can it not be straightened ?

Found this:
http://lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog/38689

Which backs up what you said about warranted superior medallions being used on seconds in America only.

However he does say some firms including Taylor Brothers had their own medallions, a quick search proves this and they did indeed use their own medallions with a picture of a Llama on them.

Confused :?

Anyway back to my saw, guess what it's a Taylor Brothers.

Removed the handle no problems and gave it a quick sand and voila.

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TANGONIA (any ideas ? made up latin ?)
TAYLOR BROTHERS
ADELAIDE WORKS

Good news the steel although pitted is solid and should outlast me.
Next job the handle.
 

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TANGONIA means "second"...in marketing speak...

Much later it was taken up by a famous soft drink maker..

Ok.....coat...I know when I've been tango'd :mrgreen:

Jim :oops:
 
That's a shame, can it not be straightened ?

I hope so, but I've never tried to straighten a saw before, it was less than £1 though, so might give it a bash using some web sources.
 
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