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Phill05

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Yep thats what we want the govt to do - face up to the mess, give up the delusions, admit to the failure and move on. And not use Covid as an excuse.
You don't have to have someone admit to failure or delusions to get out of a mess just be patient move on or do something about it yourself.
 

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You don't have to have someone admit to failure or delusions to get out of a mess just be patient move on or do something about it yourself.
I'm going to promise to wash and wax your car for free, but instead I'll nick it, claim I've done nothing wrong, then tell you to be patient and move on.

(I'm joking, but you get my point?)
 

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You don't have to have someone admit to failure or delusions to get out of a mess just be patient move on or do something about it yourself.
So how do you profess to get out of the mess of the NIP and the last 10 days of violence?
 

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I thought a tariff free agreement had been agreed? Funny, as I just had to pay £37 import fees for a gift, (value £60) that I sent to Spain.
 

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It's a shower of ..... Believe me. I have to bring stuff in from the EU and ship out. The customs hassle is an absolute choke on business from both ends. If you fancy a career change and don't mind admin, then customs brokering is a growing industry, helping companies navigate this mess. P****d off beyond belief at the Brexiteer ****wits who didn't have the foresight to see this coming. Muppets.
 

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So how do you profess to get out of the mess of the NIP and the last 10 days of violence?
I was rather wondering if, amidst all the comments on how people should "move on" (always a well-received suggestion, as I'm sure we've all experienced in our lives), someone would point out that a part of the UK is currently literally on fire amidst almost two weeks of street violence as a direct result of how the outcome of the brexit vote has been handled, with the head of local government there meeting with the paramilitary terrorist groups (no, not the IRA, the other side, the Unionist terrorist groups who never handed in their weapons and who are still active despite the GFA), but not meeting with the head of the PSNI to discuss the problem.

I mean, lads, there's "get on with it" as rhetoric and there's actually getting on with the job, and it'd be nice if someone would do that before the likes of Sammy Wilson points men with high explosives towards the ROI as a scapegoat as has happened in the past.

This is, after all, your country. It's not some far-off distant land, the people running the place (half of them at any rate, and including the incumbent first minister) sit in the House of Commons and they hold those lovely new blue passports.
 

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I was rather wondering if, amidst all the comments on how people should "move on" (always a well-received suggestion, as I'm sure we've all experienced in our lives), someone would point out that a part of the UK is currently literally on fire amidst almost two weeks of street violence as a direct result of how the outcome of the brexit vote has been handled, with the head of local government there meeting with the paramilitary terrorist groups (no, not the IRA, the other side, the Unionist terrorist groups who never handed in their weapons and who are still active despite the GFA), but not meeting with the head of the PSNI to discuss the problem.

I mean, lads, there's "get on with it" as rhetoric and there's actually getting on with the job, and it'd be nice if someone would do that before the likes of Sammy Wilson points men with high explosives towards the ROI as a scapegoat as has happened in the past.

This is, after all, your country. It's not some far-off distant land, the people running the place (half of them at any rate, and including the incumbent first minister) sit in the House of Commons and they hold those lovely new blue passports.
It's ok Mark, Johnson has voiced, sorry Tweeted, his concern, only took him 11 days. A night of disturbances in Bristol and he's talking about it within hours.



I am deeply concerned by the scenes of violence in Northern Ireland, especially attacks on PSNI who are protecting the public and businesses, attacks on a bus driver and the assault of a journalist. The way to resolve differences is through dialogue, not violence or criminality. 9:33 PM · Apr 7, 2021
Replies to his words interesting...



 
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"I am deeply concerned by the scenes of violence in Northern Ireland, especially attacks on PSNI who are protecting the public and businesses, attacks on a bus driver and the assault of a journalist. The way to resolve differences is through dialogue, not violence or criminality"
That last bit is almost amusing, given Boris has, how shall I put it... "prior experience" in this area.

Anyway. Props to the guy on Twitter who's responded simply with; "this is directly on you, and the cavalcade of c***s who ride with you"
 

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I thought a tariff free agreement had been agreed? Funny, as I just had to pay £37 import fees for a gift, (value £60) that I sent to Spain.
As I said elsewhere, Trade agreements and customs are two separate entities - trade agreements help with the flow of goods, customs protect that flow of goods. Tariffs are part of a trade agreement rather than customs.
 

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......The way to resolve differences is through dialogue, not violence or criminality. .......
Sounds familiar, didn't J Corbyn say the same when he was accused of terrorist sympathising?
As for moving on, getting over it etc Johnson, Farage, Banks and co will be doing just that, with little inconvenience to themselves, possibly laughing all the way to the bank
Will Johnson be visiting NI for dialogue? Very unlikely I think.
 
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It's a shower of ..... Believe me. I have to bring stuff in from the EU and ship out. The customs hassle is an absolute choke on business from both ends. If you fancy a career change and don't mind admin, then customs brokering is a growing industry, helping companies navigate this mess. P****d off beyond belief at the Brexiteer ****wits who didn't have the foresight to see this coming. Muppets.
Wait until the full checks coming in from the EU kick in. At the moment they are largely having a free shot at the UK. . . . but we took back control.
 

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The EU is not the centre of commerce on planet earth, if you are getting issues when dealing with them then find another source and perhaps at some point they will need to smooth things out when they realise that they are losing exports.
 

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The EU is not the centre of commerce on planet earth, if you are getting issues when dealing with them then find another source and perhaps at some point they will need to smooth things out when they realise that they are losing exports.
LOL!! Have you actually read the thread and the people on here who actually have real world experience of exporting? It's a complete mess but none of this was supposed to happen, we held all the cards, remember?
 

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The EU is not the centre of commerce on planet earth, if you are getting issues when dealing with them then find another source and perhaps at some point they will need to smooth things out when they realise that they are losing exports.
Well, to be fair, you do eat too much beef. I mean, we all do, and not just from the climate change point of view, but just from the general balanced diet point of view, we all eat too much meat in "The West" even in comparison to a few hundred years ago (which in evolutionary terms, is now, it's so short a space of time).
So when 35% of your beef (which comes from the EU, primarily from Ireland) encounters supply issues, then buying beef imported from the US (which has.... some issues) or further afield, which will raise the price due to the sheer logistical issues involved, will have an ultimately good effect on you because you'll be healthier for the reduction in consumption.

Pictured: minor logistical issues
 

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He's sent his useless SoS Lewis who will achieve nothing, at best. You know, the guy who said in January 2021, and I quote:

There is no ‘Irish Sea Border’. As we have seen today, the important preparations the Govt and businesses have taken to prepare for the end of the Transition Period are keeping goods flowing freely around the country, including between GB and NI.
 

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Well, to be fair, you do eat too much beef. I mean, we all do, and not just from the climate change point of view, but just from the general balanced diet point of view, we all eat too much meat in "The West" even in comparison to a few hundred years ago (which in evolutionary terms, is now, it's so short a space of time).
Well having been vegetarian for over thirty five years I am leading the way, we need to cut out the cattle, then we don't need to grow food to feed them and we grow it to feed ourselves directly. The problem is that too many people may fear the virus but are addicted to eating rubbish from takeaways that will lead to medical complications eventually anyway.
 

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Well having been vegetarian for over thirty five years I am leading the way, we need to cut out the cattle, then we don't need to grow food to feed them and we grow it to feed ourselves directly. The problem is that too many people may fear the virus but are addicted to eating rubbish from takeaways that will lead to medical complications eventually anyway.
This is excellent news, and with the increased demand for people to do manual harvesting of crops (something that sadly has been very effectively resistant to machines with the exception of a few specialised crops like wheat and corn in large monocrops), there's now an opportunity to not only have a healthier diet, but to also get more physical exercise and build up your general health even more. It's a truly exciting opportunity and I think it will work out very well for everyone in the long run, it should be an excellent future for all!
 

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This is excellent news, and with the increased demand for people to do manual harvesting of crops (something that sadly has been very effectively resistant to machines with the exception of a few specialised crops like wheat and corn in large monocrops), there's now an opportunity to not only have a healthier diet, but to also get more physical exercise and build up your general health even more. It's a truly exciting opportunity and I think it will work out very well for everyone in the long run, it should be an excellent future for all!
This is a good point, and I guess there's the added opportunity to expend extra calories by ducking petrol bombs. Available only in areas that definitely don't have a border down the Irish Sea, obviously.
 

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Yes we have left but unlike jumping out of a plane for that there is only one way down, for us now it's time to make something happen be patient and let them work at it and get sorted and head to being Great again we can do it.
Given the situation the UK is in, between the damage we've clearly done to trade with our European neighbours and a woefully mismanaged pandemic that's caused disproportionate damage to our economy, I'd think your view over-optimistic. I guess lots of people share it, but to my mind that's a failure to understand the UK's historical trajectory, which is one of decline. I think much of the UK (Ingerland in particular) suffers from a collective consciousness/ delusion that can't engage reality, and therefore is blind to where we're headed. Johnson's ridiculous optimism (clearly a charade) is directed to encourage this illusion as it serves his political and financial ends. Like a ship of fools that's been holed.
 

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Given the situation the UK is in, between the damage we've clearly done to trade with our European neighbours and a woefully mismanaged pandemic that's caused disproportionate damage to our economy, I'd think your view over-optimistic. I guess lots of people share it, but to my mind that's a failure to understand the UK's historical trajectory, which is one of decline. I think much of the UK (Ingerland in particular) suffers from a collective consciousness/ delusion that can't engage reality, and therefore is blind to where we're headed. Johnson's ridiculous optimism (clearly a charade) is directed to encourage this illusion as it serves his political and financial ends. Like a ship of fools that's been holed.
Just opened this thread to see what it was about and this has got to be the most miserably pessimistic defeatist attitude I have come across for years. Don’t bother replying I shan’t be back.
 

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