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-1.5 pounds last week. Still slow and steady and the habits are not feeling like a diet at this point and my tastes have at least temporarily changed (seeking healthier food as a matter of habit rather than obligation).

Developing a moderate case of plumber's disease, though.
 

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Same here. It's now at a respectful loss rate. I've been laying a floor and now have a knee injury that is hindering rather than stopping me running. Still got the beer down to a pre-weight-gain level only having a couple of Belgian beers while visiting Worcester Saturday my first for almost two weeks.
-1.5 pounds last week. Still slow and steady and the habits are not feeling like a diet at this point and my tastes have at least temporarily changed (seeking healthier food as a matter of habit rather than obligation).

Developing a moderate case of plumber's disease, though.
 

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I had a discussion with someone - wait, it was raffo - about not wanting to rely on exercise to lose weight. If it's added on later, that's fine (or in flexibility exercises now, that's fine), but it's nice to be able to lose weight comfortably.

When I was younger and lived near a park (probably said this already), I would bike and run a lot. I'd get a bit anxious when I'd have knee or shin problems from too much running (never had anything that prevented biking, I guess) - and my eating just matched the exercise and I didn't lose weight. Something has change as I've gotten older, though, and I don't have a jones for the junk food - previously, that would start to make a comeback around a month.

That said, I know there are other people who consume less once they're exercising - I'm just not one of them - it causes ravenous hunger. though it does provide a way to run off frustrations.

Starting at about 55 pounds over, though, I don't want to exercise and get banged up (I would get banged up at 160 pounds). Exercise makes me impatient to see results, too. Doing nothing doesn't so much.
 

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Really I'm relying on the lack of beer drinking. My food diet is fine, always has been healthy and balanced. I just want to get back to being able to run as regularly as I did before I started to lose interest during 2020 and completely stopping in September 2021. I won't rely on the running to lose the weight, it will go anyway. But, this mornings run was a few hundred calories burned and tomorrows run will be a few hundred more. It can't hurt diet or health wise but the main thing for me is it will get me back to doing something I know I enjoy and once I'm back to my normal weight those hills won't be such a struggle.
 

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I like your thought pattern - it's a lot like mine. There's a minor change to be made and that's enough to make the difference, so it's fine to get on with it rather than trying to crack the earth with a gimmick that will make you feel terrible and that you can't keep up (same with me, I can lose weight faster - I've done it a bunch of times), but it's 10-15 off in a month and then a year later, they're back (thankfully, they come off that fast and back on that fast and not the other way around!!)
 

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I had a discussion with someone - wait, it was raffo - about not wanting to rely on exercise to lose weight. If it's added on later, that's fine (or in flexibility exercises now, that's fine), but it's nice to be able to lose weight comfortably.

When I was younger and lived near a park (probably said this already), I would bike and run a lot. I'd get a bit anxious when I'd have knee or shin problems from too much running (never had anything that prevented biking, I guess) - and my eating just matched the exercise and I didn't lose weight. Something has change as I've gotten older, though, and I don't have a jones for the junk food - previously, that would start to make a comeback around a month.

That said, I know there are other people who consume less once they're exercising - I'm just not one of them - it causes ravenous hunger. though it does provide a way to run off frustrations.

Starting at about 55 pounds over, though, I don't want to exercise and get banged up (I would get banged up at 160 pounds). Exercise makes me impatient to see results, too. Doing nothing doesn't so much.
I know that feeling of being ravenous!!

I decided to eat just two small slices of raisin bread only to find myself eating chocolate this morning!😥😥😥
 

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Already done.

You've claimed that it's impossible to get every required nutrient in a , vegetarian diet which is obvious bunkum.
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I challenge you to show us all the evidence to support your claim .....
if you cannot then I respectfully suggest that you retract your inflammatory statement with an apology

I stand by everything I have said and can post the published peer reviewed Meta Analysis and scientific and medical research papers to support my statement .
 
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Well I'm late to the party, but just back from our first foreign holiday since 2019 (unless you count Co. Kerry) and is a good time to get going.

Currently 81.5kg (175lb) which is as heavy as I've ever been. I'm gonna track my waistline more than my weight, currently 102cm (40"), height 176cm (5'7").

My major malfunction is a sugar addiction and going from a solid 13 hours of intensive exercise every week, to basically zero. Self defence classes have started up again so I need to get back into shape. So I'm gonna focus on cutting sugar, hitting the gym, and training.

At my fittest, age 30, I weighed 10 stone (63kg, 139lbs) with 6% body fat. I suppose that's out or reach now that I'm 46! My goal is to get the waistline down and knock out the class warmup without being visibly piffed at the end!!
 

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I was a bad boy this week and came up with a zero.

Rather than get all fluffed up about it an frustrated, though, I will make up for it this week with strict eating rather than mildly relaxed.

No junk food of any kind and no unnecessary carb snacks or dry carbs.

(we had a couple of social things and one of them was a large diner with mucho drinking). Interestingly, though a zero is not a good week, it's not a regular occurrence and this is the kind of thing where I would've eaten unlimited in the past. It's not like I showed great discretion, but everything is bumped down a notch, so I didn't overindulge like I would've in the past (the lack of losing what's become the standard pound could very well just be "in the poo yet", for lack of a better way to put it).

we'll see. strict is fine for a week, but past trials suggest I won't stick to it even if I have good intentions, so unless next week pegs another zero, it's only strict for a week and then back to normal. At the outset, I wanted to lose 55 or 60 pounds in 6 months, but I'm realizing at this point I want to stay on the negative weight trend no matter if it's slow or not so as not to ever go back to my "pre age 45" mentality that I can go for periods with zero discretion with food.
 

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On the plus side. You socialised, ate and drank and didn't put any weight on.

That's sort of the hidden benefit of a change in behavior, I guess. I'd have gorged on the dinner plus the leftovers. I still overate, but the "over" was smaller and there's some room in the diet to make up for it this week without starving (no work dinners or social dinners, etc, planned vs. the two last week).
 

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One strange thought and then I'll go to reporting weight monthly.

So, yesterday, I ate nothing that isn't healthy and no dry carbs. It wasn't that hard to get through the day, except expelling water everywhere knowing that I was going to drop a few pounds by this morning.

I didn't forgo eating anything, there was just less incentive with no dry carbs. Even so, it's too drastic.

This morning, I woke up 3 1/2 pounds lighter (I've been down this road before - it's a one-day reaction to not having a bunch of grainy carbs or refined sugar in the system). Today, I'm exhausted.

At the outset, a kilo a week seemed a nice rate, because it would get me to my goal in 6 months. I've pretty much halved that and having read around, I guess have come to the conclusion that maybe a kilo a week isn't a healthy rate in the first place. a pound a week is easy. I feel the same. but I have to eat some junk to not lose weight faster than that, and no amount of potatoes, bananas, grapes, other fruit, beef, carrots, berries, protein shakes with extra PB protein added...will be enough not to shed weight too fast and feel terrible.

So, I'll report monthly as I think it's a little more reasonable to target 5 pounds a month and not go too fast and fall off the wagon later. The "strict week" will just be no refined sugar and no unneeded refined dry carbs as snacks (but bread, etc, fine with meals).

I don't know how people who eat only healthy foods manage to keep weight on.
 

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My update. I'm down around 4.5 kilos/10ish lbs. Just back from a 8km run which is my first since Monday due to pulling a muscle in my upper back moving wood about. So it has slowed down but is still going in the right direction. The beer is still at a respectable pre 2020 level and as I said before I don't need to change my food diet. A couple of local 10K races are booked which helps keep me focused and I'll look for some Snicks to do later in the summer.
 

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My update. I'm down around 4.5 kilos/10ish lbs. Just back from a 8km run which is my first since Monday due to pulling a muscle in my upper back moving wood about. So it has slowed down but is still going in the right direction. The beer is still at a respectable pre 2020 level and as I said before I don't need to change my food diet. A couple of local 10K races are booked which helps keep me focused and I'll look for some Snicks to do later in the summer.
Well done!
I've reduced my 5k pb to 19.25 would like to do below 19 soon!

Need to book up some longer races in....
 

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Well done!
I've reduced my 5k pb to 19.25 would like to do below 19 soon!

Need to book up some longer races in....
I just had a look through my old logs (running). I was in my mid fifties when I last ran a sub 30 minute hilly 5K on a training day. I don't think I ever ran a sub 20 though.
 

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Well done!
I've reduced my 5k pb to 19.25 would like to do below 19 soon!

Need to book up some longer races in....

That's a sizzling time for an amateur runner. Friend's dad used to tell us that running and triathlons were the sports of old white wealthy men. (He was all of those...addicted marathoner.) I'm not actually sure what his point was, I guess just noting the lack of amateur diversity in what he thought would've been good for everyone.
 

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