10" AGS Table Saw help

[smithomatic]

Hi guys,

Not sure if this is the correct place for this post (couldnt think what other category it would fit into here - please let me know if I need to delete and remake)

I am lucky enough to have a Wadkin 10" AGS 3 phase Table saw but I do not have 415v supply where this table saw is going.

My question is can I replace this motor so that I can use the saw with a 240v (or 110) outlet? Would this damage the saw or should it be fine?

Many thanks

Joshua

 

[smithomatic]

Here is a link to the manual which might help with my problem:

http://www.wadkin.com/uploads/files/Wadkin AGS (10 inch) Sawbench Manual & Parts List.pdf

Any and all advice appreciated!

thanks

 

[davem62]

hi joshua
i have a 10ags that runs on 240v with no problems you just need the correct motor ,i.e. shaft size and mounting flange ,but i think you will have to also change the switch to a 240v,but other people on this site have more electrical knowledge and can give better advice
hth david

 

[porker]

Hi,
Judging by the manual, this saw was available with a 1.5HP single phase motor. Your options are to change the motor (and rewire as per the manual for single phase), fit a VFD which will mean some rewiring also, as most need to have their outputs connected directly to the motor. You will also need to check that the motor can be configured to run at 230V usually by moving some links. A plate on the motor usually tells you this. Or third option is a 'plug and play' solution that allows you to plug one side into the single phase mains and the 3 phase plug from the saw into the converter.
Really comes down to cost and /or ease of finding a suitable motor. HTH
Matt

 

[wizard]

As it’s a table saw I would change the motor and the switch and put the old motor on ebay it will not fetch a lot but it’s better than nothing

 

[porker]

Agree, changing the motor is the way to go on this one if you can. There are no real advantages to speed control you might get with other machines.

 

[katellwood]

Ive done it, quite easy to do but you might need the triple belt pulley rebored

The motor is bolted to a plate (item 114 on page 14 of your manual pdf) which has a 90 degree bend and four slotted bolt holes where you mount the plate to the machine (the slotting for tensioning the belts). New bolt holes for the new motor will need to be drilled, all you have to do is drill these holes correctly so the motor and arbor pulley are coplanar

One final thing, when positioning the motor make sure the capacitor housing does not foul the frame on rise/fall and tilt (found this out the hard way)

I used a 3hp motor from axminster which works off a basic 13amp plug, also toolstation do cheap starters which are suitable

Can supply pics if needed

 

[smithomatic]

Fantastically helpful replies everyone (and quick too) , thanks!

I think it seems worthwhile changing the motor out from what has been said. I think I will give it a go.

Cheers all

I'll let you know how I get on when I come to doing it.

 

[SammyQ]

I've done exactly what the above posters recommended ; I removed the original steel pulley in order to replace the bearings and found the Whitworth key holding the pulley on to be a real beast to get off. I eventually replaced the pulley as I couldn't get a matching one for my new (higher HP) motor shaft. Bearings Boys would be a good outlet to investigate for a similar refit. My motor (from Axi) runs on 13A plugs, but I fitted a 16 amp flex as a new 'ring' with 16A outlets on it is on my 'roundtoit' list and a straightforward socket swop will happen then. Boring out the motor plate is easy, but 'mind the gap' for the capacitor is a good piece of advice.

How have other AGS owners handled dust extraction? I'm frustrated as the rise/fall/tilt castings pinch the 'blade space' when tilted and make fitting a retro dust catcher difficult. Ideas please?

Sam

 

[smithomatic]

Hey guys , any recommendations on what sort of motor would be good to use \ inexpensively avaialable \ where to look?


Many thanks experts

 

[wizard]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SINGLE-PH...mponents_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item2c88f9305c

 

[smithomatic]

Thanks for the link, I had already checked these motors and the highest rpm I can get is 2800, I was under the impression that to avoid changing the belts I needed to match the rpm that is in the manual, which is 3000?

Many thanks

 

[wizard]

2800 is ok and all you will find

 

[RobinBHM]

I have found motors-direct.co.uk 01444 247790 very good. They offer motors with foot, face and flange mount options. Ive also found them helpful over the phone and often have a choice to makes to choose from.

I have a brochure of theirs which lists all of the hole spacings for each frame size (the plate on the motor will tell you the frame size etc), which is really handy.