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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    That's intersting to hear Woody, I was a bit unsure what to expect when I ordered. : ( Nickers with a K just don't inspire as once they might have be at my age....
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Perhaps in your book Jacob, but it wasn't clear to me what to expect with this plane. I found out the hard way many years ago that with planes the details matter, and presuming its feasible that if you're going to sort them out you need to know what the problem is in the first place. Ditto with...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    View this thread I think the difference in part is that a rebating block plane is essentially a light duty trimming tool rather than a serious rebate cutting device - although it can no doubt be presssed to do more. 78/778 planes seem based on what I'm reading following the recommendations...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    The Juuma rebating block plane arrived this morning - I diverted into checking it out and setting it up as it seemed as though it would be a good idea to share some findings while this thread was still live. Bear in mind that the following pertains to the specific Juuma/Fine Tools example, and...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Hi Andrey - thanks for the info. Fine Tools in Berlin offer the various Juuma branded block planes you mention: Juuma Block Planes, Pocket Planes | FINE TOOLS The rabbet version is also listed but on a different page.
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Thanks for that J4F
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    I'm in no hurry on the 78 J and will proceed accordingly. It strikes me that most older 78s were probably used in a more knockabout joinery environment - fitting doors etc which probably explains why there are so many around. I've been digging around while trying to gain a feeling for the...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    I've seen people complain about nicking themselves on rebating planes - and have done so myself on a shoulder plane. I've seen others talk of buying one as an all rounder. Pays your money I guess but my preference is definitely for a closed model for general use too. (I have a Veritas) I...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Ta J. Do you happen to know if the Stanley 78s or Irwin 778s fairly widely on offer new at less than €100 new are respectable? Experience of other tools in this space suggests caution.. Most of the recommendations for the 78/778 seem to come from people with old planes which presumably have a...
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    Hands on Experience of Bonding Heavy Laminations Using Epoxy?

    Very graceful - bet it's quick..
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Hi John. Ta for that. There's for the record no question of embarassment here. I'll as I said post an update when I've had a chance to check out and set up the Juuma. Time will tell what it gets used for beyond the immediate thought. (trimming into corners on the large tenons on an upcoming...
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    Hands on Experience of Bonding Heavy Laminations Using Epoxy?

    Hi Triton. Most of the guys posting seem to have been doing curved parts or beams from thin laminations - but that's AOK. My situation is different - I'm laminating planed up 40mm thick flat boards for a very heavy bench in beech which is in some respects a bit more straight forward. It's...
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    Hands on Experience of Bonding Heavy Laminations Using Epoxy?

    There's a whole set of skills associated with using epoxy - but once learned it's not bad to work with. It's easy though for a person used to flinging PVA about to get into trouble. The biggest downside with the stuff in many ways is the inevitable mess. That and how nasty it could be if you...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    On nickers. I can definitely see Dionysios that they could be fiddly to use in the sort of scenario I have in mind. As in taking a skim off a wide tenon. The nicker would be in use for those cuts tight against the shoulder, but would ideally be retracted for cuts away from it. I'll definitely...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    You're entitled to your view Derek, but I have tried only to show that the issues in play are wider and more nuanced than is implied in reactionary LN good/Chinese bad responses. There's no point in my trying to justify buying the Juuma rabbet block plane. I'll be happy if it turns out to be...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    Is that really true Pete? Is anybody truly trying to pass their product off as LN or Veritas? The designs for the (good) reasons discussed above are similar if not identical. Unsurprisingly so - they have long been highly optimised. Imagine also the reaction of our notoriously conservative...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    To get back towards the woodworking. There's actually a bewildering number of rebate capable planes about - everything from the likes of the Stanley 78 through shoulder planes, fence equipped skew rebating block planes as the Veritas LH and RH pair, simple rebating block planes and rebating...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    PS - thanks for the thought on the nickers Dionysios. I'm buying the rabbet plane because I surmised that it'd be nice to have something wider and more balanced than a shoulder plane with which to take a skim off a tenon or a rebate - including getting right into the corner. The circular...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    I guess it all depends... I suspect that LN and Veritas may be disadvantaged by virtue of their offering a very wide range of products - many of which presumably sell in small volumes. As well as adding operating complexity and hence cost it leaves them open to the possibility of the...
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    Juuma Vs Lie Nielsen Rebate (Rabbet) Block Planes?

    I know Derek that LN have been doing this type of plane for quite a long time - there was an early one included in the list for the David Charlesworth auction. This means that it's likely that the Quangsheng/Luban item is a copy. There's a much bigger picture than that in play however - it's a...
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