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By Lonsdale73
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Maybe it's my age or maybe I've just been deluded / brainwashed my entire life but I always believed the BBC to be accurate, honest and impartial in their reporting. The aftermath of Operation Yewtree kinda blew that notion apart. Even now that I've come to accept they are not without an agenda, the quality and standards of their so called journalists are dropping and most reports can be taken with a pinch of salt, they ran a story on their website that was so misleading and factually incorrect that I was sufficiently irked to raise a complaint about it.

Almost as bad as the false reporting was the arrogant, patronising and condescending response that didn't just disagree with my viewpoint but told me I was talking nonsense. Naturally, I complained about the tone of the response and that was dealt with by the same editor my complaint was about! And it was no less sneering either, telling me not to bother wasting their time.

They're beginning to make me feel like one of their former radio characters - Mr Angry!
By sunnybob
#1224470
The beeb might not get revenue from advertising, but every programmer and editor has to justify itself by its ratings. Sensationalism and bending of facts produces mass ratings for the masses to ogle at. By definition a thinking man (or woman) is not going to be pleased with that programme.
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By ScaredyCat
#1224491
I think they call it the "post-truth" world now. Facts don't matter, nobody needs experts thinking you're right makes it so.


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By OscarG
#1224499
I absolutely loathe the BBC.

Makes me sick that I'm legally required under threat of prosecution to fund a bloated, biased, wholly untrustworthy group that utterly despises me for my political views. I only tend to watch Netflix, On Demand services, Amazon prime, loads of youtube. I very rarely watch any of the BBC's pitiful output. They're constantly in breach of their impartiality charter, they're long past their best-before date, there's simply no justification for their "unique way we're funded" anymore.

If they're that confident about quality of their output they'll go subscription only like Netflix. I'm sick of paying the inflated wages of a sanctimonious, virtue-signalling, hypocritical, ignorant buffoon like Lineker.

I don't like the Guardian so I don't read it, don't have to pay.
I don't like the BBC, so I don't watch it, but I still have to pay....madness!

Edit - forgot to say, as much as I hate the BBC, I think Andrew Neil is fab and does a sterling job of holding all politicians to account!
By lurker
#1224505
Journalists no longer report facts, they write stories, at best just slightly twisted to suit their agenda.
Folks at the bbc are well paid and generally in secure jobs.
Over time this makes them overly liberal. champagne socialists if you will.
And that's before you start thinking about how London centric they all are.
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By whiskywill
#1224521
OscarG wrote: I'm sick of paying the inflated wages of a sanctimonious, virtue-signalling, hypocritical, ignorant buffoon like Lineker.


Don't beat about the bush. Say what you really mean. :shock:

p.s. I second every word you have said.
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By stuartpaul
#1224568
Are you complaining about all BBC output or just the news output?

If you think the BBC is bad (and of course it can be) then you need to try Fox!
By HappyHacker
#1224576
There have been many reports over the years by journalists who have left the BBC about the left wing bias of the majority of the journalists and management and the need to suppress any right wing view get on. This is apparent in the choice of news articles and reports they prioritise and omit.

e.g. Irrespective of ones views on Brexit has anyone seen anything critical of the EU on the BBC?

Whenever there is criticism of a program the answer is always along the lines of "We have had a number of planning and management meetings about the content of the program and have had a number of viewer surveys which indicated that while challenging the content was appropriate." They are NEVER wrong.

Also how much of any news program is views as opposed to news?

Having worked in the BBC I know how seriously they take impartiality but they base it on the number of minutes allocated to views from each political point of view and ignore the quality and the views on the news presented by their biased reporters s they are impartial.
By phil.p
#1224579
I've just cleared my cache etc. and have had to sign into BBC again - I watch TV only on computer.. There is nothing that irritates me quite like the picture of that grinning idiot Norton holding his hands apart as if to say "and this is the size of the chunk of your licence fee that is paid to me" (I expect half the rest is paid to Winkleman's fringe.)
By Woody2Shoes
#1224599
lurker wrote:Journalists no longer report facts, they write stories, at best just slightly twisted to suit their agenda.
Folks at the bbc are well paid and generally in secure jobs.
Over time this makes them overly liberal. champagne socialists if you will.
And that's before you start thinking about how London centric they all are.


Just to correct on small point - most "journalists" are not really "journalists" in the old-fashioned sense - they're just low-paid drones copying and pasting stuff off other people's websites (while trying to add an even more click-baity headline to it).
By mbartlett99
#1224632
The really depressing bit is that they're still better than the alternatives, something along the lines of "... democracy is the worst form of government apart from all the rest .. "

On one boat I worked on at lunchtime we watched the news (we were based in the US); Fox, CNN, Al Jazeera and BBC. Try it sometime, same story but damned if you can tell half the time.
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By custard
#1224634
I couldn't really care one way or the other about the views expressed, but I do care about the absence of younger "snowflakes" pushing back against older "gammon" posters! I care because it underlines how depressingly old hobby woodworking has become.

Unless something changes then hobby woodworking looks set to follow stamp collecting through the cemetery gates.

The question posts like this leave me with is what, if anything, can be done to encourage youngsters into the craft?
By mbartlett99
#1224637
Hmmm, think the answer is a bit too depressing to consider. But here goes anyway ....

In my job I work with a lot of young people (hell,I'm only in my mid 40's) and there is a massive lack of interest/ability in anything practical of any sort. As equipment has got more complex fixing it yourself has got more difficult/impossible, as things have got more disposable the point of fixing them has become more pointless.

Add to that the lack of space for doing things - garages are becoming rarer - and the cost of tooling are two moe factors generally discouraging people.

Very different in the US where they have a more positive can do attitude and that old fashioned mentality of America being built on the back of pioneers. They also have massive garages.