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By Mark A
#1336625
Trevanion wrote:
petermillard wrote:One thing to watch for is that often vans aren’t welcome at local tip/recycling centre, or are made to pay. It does depend where you are in the country - as an LBHF resident I can take stuff to the local tip in a van, but I have to go into the commercial section via the weigh bridge, so a load of paperwork and hi-vis/hard hat etc..etc..


Our local tip doesn't allow trailers with more than two wheels to enter without a waste carrier's license. I know someone who took one without knowing that rule and was rejected at the gate even though the rubbish was clearly domestic and not excessive, so he reversed it back out of the gate and jacked up the trailer and took off two wheels and went back in without any issue...


Our local tips banned trailers years ago, and only allow vans and pickups to certain sites 12 times a year.

The nearest tip in the next county had no such limits on vans and trailers, so tradesman, house clearance companies, and travellers with tipper-loads of rubble and green waste would dump their commercial rubbish for free. The tip, operated by a private firm, recycled most of it.

From last spring they banned trailers and vehicles over 2m, and started to ask to see a proof of address after complaints that the queues were too long. From what I've heard, fly tipping is now more common round there than before. I wonder why...
By TFrench
#1336634
We've always run transits and they're very good. The old shape connect was very good as a small van - the seat folded and bulkhead hinged to allow you to get an 8x4 in it.
By Rorschach
#1336641
RogerS wrote:I had a Hyundai Santa Fe...removed the rear seats and inserted a three sided MDF box. I slung the lot in there ...from bricks and rubble to junk. You should have seen the look on the tip guy's face ! I could fit more in the Santa Fe then you'd get in a small trailer (and we only had passes for 6 trailer loads a year)


I forgot about the waste issue.

I like your idea of putting a box in the back. I will try and remember that if I ever need to do something similar.
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By Droogs
#1336692
I use a Kia Seddona. Probably the most versatile car I have ever owned and one of the most comfortable for long drives. It can carry 6 people each in their own captain's chair or 7 when using the bench seat for the 3rd row. It has electric sliding rear side doors just like a van and it takes literally 72 seconds for me to take the rear sets of seats out and 2min to put them back.
When not being used as a the family taxi at get-togethers , I use it as a daily van and can fit 10 sheets of 8x4; 22 3mx4x2 and a lot more in the rear with the seats out. It also carried 22 bags of sharp sand and 13 of cement in one go. When it is not use for that we use it as a camper van as it has space for two full size inflatable single mattresses in the back along with a camping fridge 2 x125ltr bergens a 4 person side tent, 2 chairs a folding table 2x5Gal water Jerry cans and both me and the missus and the mutt at the same time in the back. It has a built in DVD player and wi-fi headphones for when the weather turns rubbish, standard AC when its too hot or cold. It has so far averaged around 38mpg since I got it and it cost me the grand total of £800 with 50K on the clock and now has just over 80K in 2 years.
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By Lons
#1336719
Wasn't the Sedona was discontinued for the UK 9 or 10 years ago Droogs?
By bracspin
#1336723
I have just sold a 2012 Caddy as have bought another one 2016 automatic as my wife's left knee could not handle a clutch in a traffic jam. They are a great van and the diesel engine will go on forever. More importantly they hold their second hand value. I also have a VW T5 which I have had from new. Now 13 years old it it is as reliable as when new. Cannot fault VW vans. Hope this helps.
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By Droogs
#1336800
Lons wrote:Wasn't the Sedona was discontinued for the UK 9 or 10 years ago Droogs?


2017 but lots around and excellent value for what you can do with it. I know 2 ppl who have now got 'em as a backup crew van kind of thing
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By Lons
#1336803
That's interesting Droogs I seem to remember when they launched a new model my brother was interested but it was not available in the UK and he said they had dropped it for our market due to low sales volume and LHD issues.

I'm probably wrong though, the old memory gets worse by the day. :wink:
By Richard_C
#1336812
I'm a fan of van based cars, rather than car based vans. Had a Citroen. Synergie for almost 20 years. Still miss it.

Where do you live? Most small vans are diesel, affordable pre 2016 ones are usually euro 5 (manufacturers vary, phased out 2015 Onwards)
and from later this year any diesel that is not Euro 6 will have to pay something like £12 every time they enter the expanded London ULEZ, look it up on TFL website but its a big area, I think bounded by the north and south circular maybe pushing out to the M25 one day.
Not a worry in most places in UK.... yet.

My son is an orchestral percussionist, so got himself a Ford Tourneo Connect to carry big instruments. Hisinsirsnce quotes for vans were very high so the van with seats was the answer. Also avoids the lower A road speed limits you get with vans

Got the slightly puny sounding 1.0 petrol as he often works in the zone. Future proofing of sorts.
Probably fails the 8x4 test, the grand Tourneo connect might be OK, but I'm massively impressed with its use ability generally. Very square loads space and the seats come out unlike my Picasso where they fold flat and take away lots of height. Even with the 1.0 engine it goes well enough but you have to stir the gearbox a bit more than some.
By Blackswanwood
#1338474
It ended up being a close run thing between a Caddy and a Transit Courier - the Caddy won as my wife preferred the colour! I can use it at the tip - just had to give the Council proof it’s being used privately.
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By Lons
#1338493
Blackswanwood wrote:- the Caddy won as my wife preferred the colour!


Heard that somewhere before! :lol:
By Rorschach
#1338506
Blackswanwood wrote:I can use it at the tip - just had to give the Council proof it’s being used privately.


How do you prove that?
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By Lons
#1338509
Rorschach wrote:
Blackswanwood wrote:I can use it at the tip - just had to give the Council proof it’s being used privately.


How do you prove that?


I have an Ifor Williams twin wheel 8x4 trailer of the type which is normally commercial although I am retired but our local authority allows me to apply on line for 12 permits a year where I have to list the main materials and quantity as bags and there are materials such as glass, rubble, plasterboard, kitchen units etc I would have to pay for. There is a limit on the quantity I can dispose of in a year though I can't remember what that is without checking.

On arrival at the recycling centre I have to produce the roughly itemised permit, photo I.D. and proof of address and if there's anything that they're suspicious about they would refuse to accept and report me to the L.A.
By Blackswanwood
#1338614
Rorschach wrote:
Blackswanwood wrote:I can use it at the tip - just had to give the Council proof it’s being used privately.


How do you prove that?


Show them the insurance certificate.