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By ED65
PattyMac wrote:I've rubbed down, applied knotting soln., primed twice with a rubbing in between and applied three coats of satin - again with a rub down and they still look - to me - new and awful.
To me that sounds like the paint was awful (unless it was not mixed thoroughly or had gone off). While most paints should not be expected to give solid coverage with a single coat, any halfway decent paint should give a complete 'fully painted' look after the third coat is on even without primer applied first.

Just for a point of comparison the cheapest paint I can buy will cover well in three coats, the first two thinned to a milky consistency and only the third coat at full strength. Anything at all decent when used undiluted should cover at least as good as this.
By PattyMac
ED65 - the paint was a Dulux SatinWood Quick Dry - bought new and stirred well. Personally I think it's the wood - it just seemed as though the grain wouldn't cover and kept showing through - if that doesn't sound stupid. I have just put it down to the wood - yes, it was pine but from a local supplier and supplied as bog standard "architrave" (spelling probably wrong!).
We also bought three new doors which have 15 small bevelled panes in them which I had to do from raw wood (think this was hardwood). Again, using the same paint I had to apply two coats of primer and three coats of gloss. They do look well but a heck of a lot of work - painted them flat on my big dining table. One thing - these doors had the plastic on the front of the glass and were much easier to paint than the same ones we'd had many years ago - just have to be careful slicing the plastic off afterwards.
We got the white skirting board (is it MDF?) and again I wouldn't recommend - I thought I wouldn't need to undercoat it but as it needed rubbing down the finish came off and I had to undercoat it.
We've come to the end of the project at home which was a kitchen knocked through to the dining area, new staircase and a shower room downstairs - back to France in the Spring.
As you've probably guessed .....the decorating is left to me - keeps me busy and other half does the building etc. - definitely no patience...!!
Perhaps I just like to see a completely smooth finish like we have on the other paintwork in the house which has been done a few years - is this the case??
By Jacob
You can't blame the wood if the paint is cr&p.

Linseed oil paint will cover almost anything in two coats. No primer (though you can use linseed oil itself), no thinners, easy clean up of brushes, no waste, lasts much longer than Dulux and all modern cr&p paints.
By Jacob
PattyMac wrote:Jacob,
If it's oil does it yellow more quickly? Also, I thought oil-based paints needed turps to clean brushes after??
You can buy linseed oil paints in as fine non yellowing quality as you want - it's what artists use traditionally, but the best is pricey.
You don't clean the brushes you suspend them in oil (jam jar, hole in lid, clothes peg) until the next time. It doesn't dry like solvent paints and they stay in good nick for a long time.
Lost of threads about it recently - have a search.