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By Sheptonphil
#1200147
I had the t7 tormek, sold it and bought the full Proedge kit. The t7 gouge jigs work on the Pro edge.

I love it, would never go back to a wheel system. You don’t want/need hollow grinds on turning tools.

I use it for normal chisels and plane blades, mower blades, axes, literally anything with a cutting edge.

Very rare to find one second hand, that tells its own story.

Phil
By Arnold9801
#1200157
The Robert system does seem to be the rolls Royce option but I've just been reading about the slow speed bench grinders combined with white stones. Axminister and creusen seem very good. Anyone got views on these options as an alternative to the £340 Robert Sorbey option? Although slow speed bench grinders are expensive for what they are, it seems cheaper than "Bob Sorby!"
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By Sheptonphil
#1200181
Arnold9801 wrote:The Robert system does seem to be the rolls Royce option but I've just been reading about the slow speed bench grinders combined with white stones. Axminister and creusen seem very good. Anyone got views on these options as an alternative to the £340 Robert Sorbey option? Although slow speed bench grinders are expensive for what they are, it seems cheaper than "Bob Sorby!"


By the time you’ve added jigs (if you use them) the slow speed grinders aren’t really that much cheaper. I went the stone route, wished I’d never done it. The real problem comes when you want to reshape, then sharpen. Easy with Proedge, the grits are too fine for reshaping with white, and they need constant dressing else the develop wavy surface and deep grooves. Don’t fight it, just shell out once and never think about it again except smiling every time you walk away with a sharp gouge in 30 seconds.
By Arnold9801
#1200185
Sheptonphil wrote:
Arnold9801 wrote:The Robert system does seem to be the rolls Royce option but I've just been reading about the slow speed bench grinders combined with white stones. Axminister and creusen seem very good. Anyone got views on these options as an alternative to the £340 Robert Sorbey option? Although slow speed bench grinders are expensive for what they are, it seems cheaper than "Bob Sorby!"


By the time you’ve added jigs (if you use them) the slow speed grinders aren’t really that much cheaper. I went the stone route, wished I’d never done it. The real problem comes when you want to reshape, then sharpen. Easy with Proedge, the grits are too fine for reshaping with white, and they need constant dressing else the develop wavy surface and deep grooves. Don’t fight it, just shell out once and never think about it again except smiling every time you walk away with a sharp gouge in 30 seconds.




I like your way of putting it! I can see your logic......but £340?????

Anybody got a Robert Sorby they would sell?! I know I have already asked this in the “wanted” section of the forum!
By Bodger7
#1200414
jim1950 wrote:I'm looking into the same thing, I've got the tormek and can't make my mind up tormek jigs for tuning tools of Pro edge. Help please.


Hi Jim

I've sent you a PM.
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By johnt64
#1200522
For what its worth I had the O'Donnel jig set up on a six inch grinder and also a Tru-Grind jig set up on a 8 inch Record Power grinder both fitted with whith white wheels, and still struggled to replicate my sharpening angles every time. I took the plunge invested in the Robert Sorby Pro-edge. Absolutley worth every penny to me, my turning has improved, less time spent sharpening tools and the tools are so much sharper than before and replicating angles is so easy. In hindsight I wish Id bought one first instead of the other two jigs and grinders which are now standing redundant in the corner of my shed.
By selectortone
#1200563
I started off with a budget grinder I found on gumtree and some cheapo jigs from ebay. As I got more proficient I thought I should buy a 'proper' grinder so I invested in the Record Power one. The spec is actually very similar to my original grinder so after it had lingered under a bench for a few months I decided to use it alongside the Record Power one. I also found that, with care, I could get pretty much the same results with the cheapo ebay jigs as I could with the Deluxe Universal Sorby sharpening system I bought.

I now have a choice of four wheels, (three white and a one CBN) set up for the four angles I use most - from left to right in the picture: one for spindle roughing gouges, scrapers, beading and parting tool, bedan etc, one for bowl gouges, one for spindle gouges and one for skew chisels. The Sorby system is split between two wheels, as I found it a right faff to keep resetting up.

This setup minimises the time setting up for a grind and maximises turning time.

I also have a Trend diamond sharpening card that I keep in my pocket that I use if an edge just needs a freshen up. I use that all the time.

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By TopCat 32
#1200580
Anybody got a Robert Sorby they would sell?! I know I have already asked this in the “wanted” section of the forum!

sorry Arnold, i would only sell you my pro edge for £340, so i could go out and buy another new 1, i rate mine that much, but like you i found £300+ a lot for a sharpening system, but since saving up for it and using it for the last 3 months, i think it really is money well spent, and build quality seems really good, i would hope it lasts me a Good many years, i like you waited for months for a good 2nd hand one , (they seem to be like rocking horse poo) and when 1 did come up they nearly reach new price,

good luck on whatever you decide
By Arnold9801
#1200755
Thanks for the replies...i have made my mind up and bought........
The Robert Sorby deluxe universal sharpening system. Handles are doing it at a discount but that's not why I'm buying it.

On Saturday I visited a colleague who is an excellent turner and he took me through the reasons why he has this option. He sharpened some gouges/chisel took me over to his lathe and gave me a demo to show how sharp they were and how well they cut. For s fraction of the price of a pro edge and still with excellent results why pay that much again?
Each one to their own and I'm not knocking those that have the pro edge, but as I need some more "boys toys" I felt thus was a good balance between expense and end results- sharpness. I also have some pound to spend elsewhere!!


Regards
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By Sheptonphil
#1200934
MikeJhn wrote:Can the Proedge sharpen planer blades?

Mike

Yes, to ensure square, there is premium adjustable square guide available to make sure the plane blade is presented to the belt accurately.

Phil
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By CHJ
#1200938
Sheptonphil wrote:
MikeJhn wrote:Can the Proedge sharpen planer blades?

Mike

Yes, to ensure square, there is premium adjustable square guide available to make sure the plane blade is presented to the belt accurately.

Phil


Phil are you refering to the 90deg. setting guide for Hand Plane Blades or something for Wide Surface Planer Blades which is I believe what Mike was enquiring about.
By TFrench
#1202074
I don't think the pro edge is accurate enough for planer blades mike. I'd say it needs something with a proper clamping/workholding and an XY table - IE a surface grinder.
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By MikeJhn
#1202169
That's what I thought, I already have a large wet stone grinder and though I may try to set these three bits up to use on it:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/tormek-bgm-1 ... set-210952
http://www.axminster.co.uk/tormek-svh-3 ... jig-910085
http://www.axminster.co.uk/tormek-awt-2 ... ugh-210294

A lot less cost than a new Tormek system.

Mike