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By big soft moose
#417635
wizer wrote:This is quite nice.

http://www.fishcontemporaryfurniture.com

Very clean and minimalist. I do like sites that are framed like this. It takes a bit of thinking to make it work with content but it's very user friendly. I've designed a few like this in the past.


an example of why these things are a matter of taste - personally i hate this one (as a website - not a comment on the woodwork) , there is IMO far too much text on the front page (and indeed on most pages) and none of it meets the accesibility guide lines being both too small and too faint.
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By CHJ
#417637
Chris, might I suggest the Opening Post is edited to contain a list of the better sites;

I.E.

C.H. Becksvoort Maybe with a qualifying comment on the link line.
Jonathan Pearce Fine Furniture
Oryx Design
Richard Williams
Cadman Furniture
Michael Cooper
Waywood Furniture
Robert Ingham
Devon Furniture Makers
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By big soft moose
#417646
houtslager wrote:some nice and not so nice ones there, could I be cheeky and ask -
"what the viewers' think " of my own site
http://www.thewoodbutcher.eu


umm - I dont want to be rude but its erm - well if you want an honest opinion its not very good (sorry but you did ask - and I presume you'd prefer an honest appraisal rather than a flattering lie) - Improvements i'd recomend are

First up on the front page - lose the "made with serif" logo - no one cares what you used to make it , secondly make the picture on the left the same height as the main one and if you must have a front page ( I dont entirely agree with wizer on not having splash pages) make the whole picture a hot box to take you in to the site - thus allowing you to lose the home icon withthe flyout.

if you dont want to have a splash page take the links out of the home menu and make them into buttons

on "whats in the oven now" - personally i'd change this to a more obvious title like "work in progress" or "whats new" and I'd lose this comment "This page will change at irregular periods. depending on how much time I have to spend on it , when I remember to update it , and if I am not away on a trip" as it doesnt give a good or proffesional image

likewise "links to intresting sites where my time gets wasted" - if i'm a prospective customer does it give me a good feeling that you like to waste time ? - put your links on a seperate page and use the whats new page to give a good picture of your work

on the design ethos page - whats the relevance of that coat of arms ? i'd loose it and use the space to widen the frame for your design ethos - also work on the grammar, punctuation, capitalisation etc of the text

I'm sorry to sound harsh but you have the tag line "life is better designed" but although your furniture lives up to it your website sadly doesnt - if you want customers to take you seriously as a designer the website has to demonstrate that ethos.
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By woodbloke
#417664
CHJ wrote:Chris, might I suggest the Opening Post is edited to contain a list of the better sites;

I.E.

C.H. Becksvoort Maybe with a qualifying comment on the link line.
Jonathan Pearce Fine Furniture
Oryx Design
Richard Williams
Cadman Furniture
Michael Cooper
Waywood Furniture
Robert Ingham
Devon Furniture Makers

Chas - I was about to suggest something similar. What's needed IMO is a reference list of good sites and not an in depth assessment of the positive or negative qualities of any one in particular - Rob
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By CHJ
#417677
woodbloke wrote:.What's needed IMO is a reference list of good sites and not an in depth assessment of the positive or negative qualities of any one in particular - Rob


That's why I suggested just a qualifying byline if felt necessary.

Like:
Site needs flash,
Site links on here are worth a trawl.
Good content, shame about the presentation.

The problem is all reference lists like this take up quite a bit of time to monitor and update.
I know those on the Turning forum do anyway.
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By Chris Knight
#417691
Rob, you are correct but like Chas says it takes a good deal of effort to maintain - I had no time to do the comments hence my "ignoring" Chas's suggestion.
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By woodbloke
#417703
waterhead37 wrote:Rob, you are correct but like Chas says it takes a good deal of effort to maintain - I had no time to do the comments hence my "ignoring" Chas's suggestion.

Your effort is much appreciated as I think it will be a valuable resource on the forum - Rob
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By Chris Knight
#417752
One of the restrictions of the forum software we use is that the HTML that can be used in posts is very limited. This has the effect of making it very difficult to create tabulations of data.

Many of the things we should like to do such as listing designer makers for example are best done in the form of a table. To get around the limitation I have mentioned above, I have sown the seeds of an experiment. The link below will take you to a Google documents spreadsheet. As I have set it up, the spreadsheet can be edited by anybody -- in the spirit of the original Wikipedia.

You are all invited to edit it as you see fit. The idea is that peer pressure results in the winnowing of poor material. Probably, like Wikipedia, we shall find this doesn't work too well and that other restraints need to be applied.

I am unfamiliar with Google documents, at least their usage but rather than spend an age studying, I thought it might be informative to jump in with both feet and try it out. So here is your starter for 10.

Please edit the document as you see fit -- but try to be sensible and stay within the forum rules. If it all goes pear shaped we shall have to try another tack.


http://tinyurl.com/ylxa2wm

At present, it looks like this

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By wizer
#418133
yes I like it Chris and, tho it's a little slow to load, the zoom feature seems to work well. I'm not sure, for prospective clients, that close up of the entirety of each piece of furniture is absolutely necessary. The one with 3 close up shots of each piece is a nice touch, IMO.

If you need help administering this, I am happy to help in a couple of weeks when I'm in recovery mode.
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By houtslager
#418168
BSM, thanks I need help as you may have noticed - I am a woodworker not a web designer, since it went live I have had a seriously sick pc and the lap top was playing up.
Now both are back from the pc hospital, I hope to re vamp it.

BUT ! I need assistence, anyone care to help out?

hs , busy re vamping 4 old church pews :? :)
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By Chris Knight
#418182
wizer wrote:If you need help administering this, I am happy to help in a couple of weeks when I'm in recovery mode.


Tom,
Thanks. Please feel free to edit, add etc.
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