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By TFrench
#1275516
Either BSS as lurker said, or google a local pipefitter. Sure they would be happy to thread you up some lengths of 1/2" tube for some cash.
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By marcros
#1275518
what lengths of pipe are you looking for out of interest and how many do you need?
By Lonsdale73
#1275535
marcros wrote:what lengths of pipe are you looking for out of interest and how many do you need?

That's two good questions and I'm not sure what the answer is. I've got a pair of fittings on order to try them out so will need at least two pipes but whether that's one long pipe, threaded both ends and cut in half I don't know yet. If they work, I will want more because one can never have too many clamps, right? As for length, I have a number of Bessey KR clamps to 1.2m. It'the 600mm that are used the most although there are times when I could use a little more length (story of my life!).

I also like the idea of a pipe clamp moxon vice a la Jay Bates so that would be more pipes but probably no more than 500mm in length. Alternatively, I might bite the bullet and buy one of the offerings from Axminster or Workshop Heaven, see how I get on with that and if I find I do need some extra width I can buy a suitable length of 20mm threaded and at least I'll have the cast iron hand wheels from the bought version.
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By marcros
#1275827
I was just looking at the Bessey K body actually, with a view to getting a few of the shorter ones.
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By Trevanion
#1275829
marcros wrote:I was just looking at the Bessey K body actually, with a view to getting a few of the shorter ones.


I was looking at them also a few months ago but decided that I would probably wear them out, I've already worn out two Bessey Duoklamps (The plastic around the reverse switch tends to break after a while, turns out that's where a lot of the pressure goes).

For about the same money (Even a little less in the end) clamp for clamp as the K-body I was able to buy brand new Record T-Bar 54" clamps for about £40 a clamp. They also have lifetime unbreakable guarantee, and I seriously doubt I would ever have to take up that guarantee. I suppose it all depends on what you're planning on doing with the clamps too, if you're not using them with day in-day out abuse with tonnes of pressure perhaps the k-body is a smoother clamp to use for most things.
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By marcros
#1275834
My main use (not day in day out) would be for box making (mainly) and for clamping edge jointed boards together (from time to time). The slight hesitation is that 300mm would do most of the box making, and 600mm would do almost all of everything but is the extra length going to be a nuisance on most box making tasks. If bessey or anybody else reputable did a 450mm available in the UK, that would be ideal.

I also have some of the pipe clamps but no pipe yet. That could persuade me towards the 300mm k bodys
By Lonsdale73
#1275835
The KR's are a much different beast to the Duoklamps. I have some of them to and they cover most of my needs with the KR's brought out when I need either the extra lenght and/or some serious clamping. I have also some Bessey Kwicklamps (think that's what they're called, f-style with rapid action ratchet machanism). I find they are great with MFT style worktops, t-track and tracksaw rails. I'd hoped to pick up some more at last week's Midlands Woodworking Show but Bessey were one of four companies I really wanted to talk to and not one of them turned up!
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By colinc
#1275890
Hi,

re the Moxon vice. I remember that I saw something where someone had recycled parts from hand bar bell weights to make one. A quick google search came up with a few examples like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4voqYmO-dvc

Might be worth a thought?

Colin
By Lonsdale73
#1275906
That's brilliant thanks
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By Benchwayze
#1275910
Lonsdale73 wrote:After some iron items which I keep getting told can be found 'any old place' but I'm not having much joy. Could be such items no longer exist in the UK.

First thing I'm trying to find is cast iron hand wheels, c125mm with a bore that work with 20mm threaded stud. I can find the latter easily enough but would be nice to find somewhere capable of supplying both. I'm sure you can all probably guess it's intended purpose.

The next item is something I've head referred to as half-inch pipe, sometimes black pipe which can be threaded one end or both. This is something I've seen repeatedly stated as 'available from any plumber's merchant' but still I can't find it on Plumbersworld/Plumbersmate etc. Are these possibly American terms an we know it by another name?


Lonsdale. I have some 20mm galvanised conduit. And I just sold an unused, Benchcrafted Moxon set-up, the other day. Including chamois leather facing . I don't suppose you will be pleased to hear that. Still the galvanised pipe is yours if you want it.

John
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By Benchwayze
#1275913
Lonsdale73 wrote:After some iron items which I keep getting told can be found 'any old place' but I'm not having much joy. Could be such items no longer exist in the UK.

First thing I'm trying to find is cast iron hand wheels, c125mm with a bore that work with 20mm threaded stud. I can find the latter easily enough but would be nice to find somewhere capable of supplying both. I'm sure you can all probably guess it's intended purpose.

The next item is something I've head referred to as half-inch pipe, sometimes black pipe which can be threaded one end or both. This is something I've seen repeatedly stated as 'available from any plumber's merchant' but still I can't find it on Plumbersworld/Plumbersmate etc. Are these possibly American terms an we know it by another name?



Lonsdale. I have some 20mm galvanised conduit. And I just sold an unused, Benchcrafted Moxon set-up, the other day. Including chamois leather facing . I don't suppose you will be pleased to hear that. Still the galvanised pipe is yours if you want it.

https://www.vital-parts.co.uk/control-h ... -587-c.asp

For hand-wheels, levers etc.

I found the acquisition of 'Acme' Threaded rod to be the most elusive part. I was trying to make lifting and lowering gear for an artists' easel. I gave up in the end and devised another system; i.e I bought a modern easel!


John 8)
By Lonsdale73
#1275931
Benchwayze wrote:
Lonsdale73 wrote:After some iron items which I keep getting told can be found 'any old place' but I'm not having much joy. Could be such items no longer exist in the UK.

First thing I'm trying to find is cast iron hand wheels, c125mm with a bore that work with 20mm threaded stud. I can find the latter easily enough but would be nice to find somewhere capable of supplying both. I'm sure you can all probably guess it's intended purpose.

The next item is something I've head referred to as half-inch pipe, sometimes black pipe which can be threaded one end or both. This is something I've seen repeatedly stated as 'available from any plumber's merchant' but still I can't find it on Plumbersworld/Plumbersmate etc. Are these possibly American terms an we know it by another name?



Lonsdale. I have some 20mm galvanised conduit. And I just sold an unused, Benchcrafted Moxon set-up, the other day. Including chamois leather facing . I don't suppose you will be pleased to hear that. Still the galvanised pipe is yours if you want it.

https://www.vital-parts.co.uk/control-h ... -587-c.asp

For hand-wheels, levers etc.

I found the acquisition of 'Acme' Threaded rod to be the most elusive part. I was trying to make lifting and lowering gear for an artists' easel. I gave up in the end and devised another system; i.e I bought a modern easel!


John 8)


That's very kind of you thanks however I think you're a wee bit too far away. Think I might give Colinc's suggestion a go, see how I get on with that.
By Lonsdale73
#1276066
So much for "any plumber's merchants"! I've been to five - including BSS and Wolsley - plus two specialist electricians' suppliers on the recommendation of one of the 'everything for the plumber' places and most of them gave me blank looks. BSS at least knew what I was talking about but even with his system down he was able to advise they only do it in 21foot lenfths! I struggled to get 4ft sash clamps into my wee car so can't see me fitting 21feet length in! And that was threaded one end only.

A google search for 'pipefitter' threw up THIRTY-FOUR pages of vacancies for pipefitters but not a single pipefitter!
By Just4Fun
#1276073
Lonsdale73 wrote:I struggled to get 4ft sash clamps into my wee car so can't see me fitting 21feet length in!

Could you get the lengths you want in your car?
If so, take a hacksaw with you when you buy a 21 ft length and cut it up in the car park.
If not, there is no point you going shopping for the pipe with that car anyway.
By Lonsdale73
#1276087
Short of a stretch limo - and even then it might be a push - I'm not sure any car would accept anything 21 foot long!

I keep getting told it is readily available and in virtually in length in six inch increments but I'd been searching for some time before posing the question on here. I appreciate all those who have taken the time to offer suggestions however fact remains 'available from ANY plumber's merchants' simply isn't true anymore. At least, not here in Lincoln.

2m lengths threaded both ends would be adequate. That I can transport and it gives me the option of cutting 50:50, 60:40 or whatever. Even if I could get it, not sure conduit would work as all the photos I've seen of it shows a female thread.