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By NotAWoodWorker
#1321203
phil.p wrote:I suspect you're approaching the problem from the wrong end - I doubt it's a woodworking forum you need to visit for advice. Good luck.



Been to doctors. Been on medication on and off for years. That helps so much. I did how ever start off on 4 or 5 medications and now down to just one daily. Go me =D>
By NotAWoodWorker
#1321204
AndyT wrote:Assuming that you have decent diy skills, a methodical approach and plenty of space, I reckon that design could be copied quite easily.
If you make it all from stock sized softwood it's just measuring, cutting to length and screwing together. The ends are frames of square edged wood, drilled for dowels, assembled, then screwed to the legs. As you say, the long sides will have bed bolts in the ends and probably some short dowels to align them and take some of the load.
Not sure how they've done the drop side but assuming bigger holes to slide along a dowel somehow and a clip to hold up.

Tools needed:

Tape measure

Try square and knife

Saw (could even be a handsaw, many people would prefer a power saw, I'll leave that for others to advise).

Electric drill or drill/driver with a bit to match the dowels and probably another to suit the bolts.

Screwdriver if not using the drill.

Some way of sanding things smooth - again, hand or power as preferred.

You may want to make some sort of jig to help space the holes evenly, but it's not essential.

So pretty basic stuff.

The materials won't be cheap though.



This is info I need. Thanks.
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By Bm101
#1321209
Fair play for your honesty. While it shouldn't be an issue to address this sadly it probably is. I question one thing, if you can get in it while awake I would guess you can get out of it in your semi awake state.
Apparently I was off out the flat a few years back in the middle of the night. That's 2 locked doors I went and got the keys for from the other end of the flat. The Mrs woke up and found me sitting at a pub bench in my birthday suit at my local 5 doors away quite happy. It's very very occasional for me. Exhausted and having a drink play a part.
If you don't mind me saying I'd be looking at maybe some sort of support. Just having someone neutral to talk to can really help sometimes.
Not something I've ever done but I probably would have benefitted several times. Who knows. My brother had worked himself into a tight space over the years. Nothing mad. Just the usual. He's benefitted hugely. He's started painting ffs. And it turns out he bleeding mustard at painting birds! Just wtf. And he is finding himself again. He wasn't having a 'breakdown'. And he wasn't close to any danger point of any type. Just a working dad, kids, pressure etc etc
Why not have a chat with your Gp and see if they can recommend a way forward. In the meantime Hop pillows might help?
Good luck. Can't imagine how hard it is. The bafflement in the morning must be very disconcerting.
All the best.
Chris
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By MikeG.
#1321214
You seem to be capable of some quite complex actions whilst "asleep". You also have to be able to get out of your crib in the morning. That sets you a fairly difficult design problem.

I can't see how you can lock yourself into something when you go to bed in such a way that you can get yourself out of it in the morning but can't get yourself out of it in the middle of the night.....other than with some highly dangerous time-release system, pre-programmed before you go to sleep. How do you plan to get around this contradiction?
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By phil.p
#1321215
As Andy said. If you go ahead, plan it well - the time taken planning it, marking it out and making jigs will be made up in the working. If you do not do this you will spend more time trying to correct mistakes than actually getting on with it. You can devise a jig that spaces a hole from the one before it - just ensure you work from the same end of every piece so that if there is an error it still matches top to bottom. Bulk packs of 15/16th broomsticks might be the cheapest way of buy 4' dowels, which would give you 2' lengths. They may distort a bit, but it depends how much you wish to spend.
By phil.p
#1321216
Bm101 wrote: Exhausted and having a drink play a part.
Chris



No $h1t, Sherlock! :D
By Rorschach
#1321223
I am sorry to hear of the troubles you are having. Like others though I don't think this will help, anything you do to secure yourself you will undo while sleepwalking, as you have already admitted you are capable of very complex tasks.
By AJB Temple
#1321226
I have a very highly intelligent friend who does quite similar things occasionally. He is capable of undoing 5 cylinder combination locks whilst sleepwalking. It is episodic with him and he and his wife use a tether that wakes him (or her) as it rings an alarm when it happens occasionally. I am not certain, but I think the alarm tether is electronic rather than physical.

A cot bed will not fix this I expect. I also thing that this bed design is far too flimsy to withstand an adult climbing out.

PS. Wickes framing wood has taken a leap in quality of late. If you hand select then you can easily get straight 2.5 metre lengths. Cheap enough with a trade card. I agree the sheds sell mostly junk at high prices, but for framing timber I have been happy of late. (Wickes North Farm, Tunbridge Wells).
By NotAWoodWorker
#1321231
AJB Temple wrote:I have a very highly intelligent friend who does quite similar things occasionally. He is capable of undoing 5 cylinder combination locks whilst sleepwalking. It is episodic with him and he and his wife use a tether that wakes him (or her) as it rings an alarm when it happens occasionally. I am not certain, but I think the alarm tether is electronic rather than physical.

A cot bed will not fix this I expect. I also thing that this bed design is far too flimsy to withstand an adult climbing out.

PS. Wickes framing wood has taken a leap in quality of late. If you hand select then you can easily get straight 2.5 metre lengths. Cheap enough with a trade card. I agree the sheds sell mostly junk at high prices, but for framing timber I have been happy of late. (Wickes North Farm, Tunbridge Wells).



Do you have a link for the alarm thingy please? Is it safe to use on someone like me?
By Deadeye
#1321233
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Do you have a link for the alarm thingy please? Is it safe to use on someone like me?[/quote]
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wander-Alarm-w ... B003ZJI4BK

It says "The Wander Alarm with Motion Detector can prevent a loved one or patient from wandering away. It can detect the movement of a person in a bed, chair, room or doorway. A small receiver (remote monitoring device) can be mounted wherever convenient, and the chimes either sound or send a discreet signal up to 100 feet away."
By Deadeye
#1321257
Hi
I'm sorry that people, including me, pressed for more information.
If you're not waking to sound or light then that sounds like a dissociative seizure and you should see an epilepsy specialist (I'm a virologist so can't advise). Dissociative seizures present much as you describe and can be confined to nighttime. A GP will not be familiar as it's quite infrequent.
Really hoping you find a solution.
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By Sheffield Tony
#1321262
There's not a lot more I can add, except that my elderly mother who had for a while night and day wandering tendencies had an alarmed mat next to her bed, so carers could know when she was up. So there are other variants of the alarm system which are commonly used, and might just be helpful ?