Has anyone used them and have any thoughts? I'm looking at a (brand) new welding mask that's a good price, but comes with no manufacturer's warranty when most suppliers include the warranty, and I wonder why.
Thanks, Chris.
Thanks, Chris.
It's 3M, looks to have all the correct markings etc.Unbranded import ??
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Not sure I would trust my eyesight to a product that had no warranty or even what safety protocol it confirms to .. just my thoughts ..
Bit strange in that case , probably worth sending them an email to confirm , so much fake stuff out there it’s better safe than sorry , I don’t know much about welding apart from the flash and potential damage to your eyesight .It's 3M, looks to have all the correct markings etc.
I'd give them a call to discuss the question. It does seem quite odd. Hopefully they'll have a decent explanation but if not you'll know not to buy it.Thanks.
Any thoughts why a retailer might have a new welding mask but not be able to offer the maker's warranty? Refurb or something?
They score 89% five stars from 738 reviews on Trustpilot so I guess that's mostly legit. Hard to know these days!I don't really understand how a product can be sold with no warranty.
Are you sure they're legit ?
Really helpful research there - thanks Sideways. The price they're asking for the kit isn't so far above a very clean/ little used kit on the bay, and standard consumer rights from a retailer necessarily apply, so I guess on that basis it's not a bad bet. Hmm...If you look at the contact details on the website they give the company as
A Lucre Musket Ltd.
It's registered at companies house, a bit recent, only 3 years old or so, but they have about £1/2 million on the balance sheet and look to paying down a loan that accounts for a sizeable chunk of this at a rate of £100k a year.
The owners are Sam (Samuel Peter) Tucker and his wife. No one attempting to hide there.
Google "A Lucre Musket Ltd" and they have 170 odd listings on amazon including some top spec air fed welding masks.
It all looks pretty legit, just that an important part of their business is based on buying cartons of product, breaking them down and selling singles.
Lots of online sellers do the same with power tools, breaking down kits and selling the bits individually. It isn't the sort of business that a top end manufacturer is likely to be courting as an important route to market but if their money is good why wouldn't anyone supply them...
BUT if (say) a full air fed welding kit is given a single serial number by the manufacturer and then sold in pieces to multiple customers, those multiple buyers may not be able to register for the factory warranty with a shared serial number because that isn't how the manufacturer sold it.
You can find exactly the same problem if you buy a cordless tool battery of charger that came from a bundle. Try to register the charger say and you find 2 batteries added to your list at the same time. If the buyers of those batteries then try to register them, they'll be refused.
Never even thought of this but it certainly seems feasible given the multiple deals offered online of makita , dewalt and Milwaukee etc . I watched a video a few months back on a guy who purchased 3 pallets of Milwaukee gear - there was supposed to be a percentage of power tools with minor damage , scuff marks and scratches etc but he got a couple of damaged drills and lots of empty cases loads of hole saws and these weird drain cleaner kits - I guess if your not concerned with warranty’s and registering your kit you can potentially get a good deal but personally I’d feel safer with a main dealer and full warranty . Excellent information thoughIf you look at the contact details on the website they give the company as
A Lucre Musket Ltd.
It's registered at companies house, a bit recent, only 3 years old or so, but they have about £1/2 million on the balance sheet and look to paying down a loan that accounts for a sizeable chunk of this at a rate of £100k a year.
The owners are Sam (Samuel Peter) Tucker and his wife. No one attempting to hide there.
Google "A Lucre Musket Ltd" and they have 170 odd listings on amazon including some top spec air fed welding masks.
It all looks pretty legit, just that an important part of their business is based on buying cartons of product, breaking them down and selling singles.
Lots of online sellers do the same with power tools, breaking down kits and selling the bits individually. It isn't the sort of business that a top end manufacturer is likely to be courting as an important route to market but if their money is good why wouldn't anyone supply them...
BUT if (say) a full air fed welding kit is given a single serial number by the manufacturer and then sold in pieces to multiple customers, those multiple buyers may not be able to register for the factory warranty with a shared serial number because that isn't how the manufacturer sold it.
You can find exactly the same problem if you buy a cordless tool battery of charger that came from a bundle. Try to register the charger say and you find 2 batteries added to your list at the same time. If the buyers of those batteries then try to register them, they'll be refused.
On expensive pro gear, 3 year warranties are expected and these will involve you registering with the manufacturer. That's where it will all fall down. I'd want discounts of 30% vs the authorised distributor pricing if I was going to lose an extended warranty so make sure you are getting a heavy discount.
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