What exactly is this ?

Dog · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: What exactly is this ?

Being a 'power tool' user I've not dabbled in hand tools much but after buying a box of old tools from a sale the following was right at the bottom but I'm not sure what it is and if you know, which of course you will, can you tell me a little bit about it. Thank you Smile

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Image3.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Image4.jpg

*Edited because of Image size, to view images click on the Links* Wink

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DaveL · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject:

Well its a newer version of Alf's avatar

I am no expert but I would be quite pleased to find something like that a box of old tools. Very Happy

It looks like a quick clean and you have a user Laughing

Its a plane used for cutting groves or moldings on timber. Are there any more blades in the box?
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Dog · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject:

No more blades or anything other than what you see, as for the other tools in box, bought 'as seen', calipers, brass grease gun, lots of stuff like that but no blades Wink

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Steve · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:06 am Post subject:

Dave's right - it's definitely a grooving plane. Looks in pretty good shape too! Howcome I never find old boxes of gear like this? Whenever I visit a boot fair or whatever, all that's left is the cr#p.
Mind you Dog, be careful. The neander virus will start to take hold, and you'll find yourself enjoying the simple pleasures of using hand tools, which gets extremely addictive. I'm currently taking counselling sessions meself - but I think it's got a hold. My brow is getting heavier, my upper body strength increasing, I grunt a lot more than I used to and find myself feeling far more 'tribal' in the sense of an innate feeling of superiority over those who can't seem to work without being plugged in.

Eventually, you could even end up like Alf.

Just a well-intentioned word of caution, you understand. Wink

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Alf · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:26 am Post subject:

Yep, definitely a plough or combination plane. Not exactly a looker... but I believe they're pretty functional. Can't tell from the pics, but is there a depth stop anywhere? Without one it's rather less functional. Sad

Trouble is I don't really know alot about the modern ones like this Embarassed

but it doesn't seem to have any depth adjustment, despite the notch in the blade for it. For more cutters you can do one of three things:

1. Get some secondhand from tool dealers
2. Get some new (assuming they still have 'em) from here
3. Buy some GFS and make your own.

In use make sure the cutter is sharp, the fence is parallel and start from a couple of inches in from the far end, take a cut, move back a bit, take another cut etc until you're doing the whole length. This makes a groove that guides the nose of the plane for the rest of the cut see? Enjoy the ride down The Slope, won'tcha? Wink

blurk99 · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:06 am Post subject:

It probably used to look something like this...

http://www.itslondon.co.uk/ITSLondonSite/Combination+Planes/STA112250.htm

but that's not a great picture and you can't see the detail of the depth adjuster mentioned above, i've got one of these and if i have have the time i can photograph it and post the picture up here

Dog · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject:

Thanks for all the info. I look forward to doing it up and having a go at 'using' a handtool Wink

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Bean · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject:

Dog
I was fortunate to pick up a combination Plane a Record this time though, and in its box with all of the blades, plus a bonus router plane.
But you dont often find goodies like these.

Enjoy your plane they can be great fun as compared to the tailed devils

Bean

Jim · Woodworker Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 57

I have one, not exactlly the same but a rebate plane non the less.
Mine belonged to my dad (god rest his soul) and was recently valued at over £600 including a full set of original blades (they are about £400 new now) so look after it.
If anyone wants to see it I could post a pic.
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Dog · Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject:

I'd like to see a pic, sounds very interesting Jim.
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Dog · Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:40 pm Post subject:

Here's a couple of new pics.

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Top.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Underside.jpg
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DaveL · Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:28 pm Post subject:

Dog,

Looking at the underside picture, I think that the depth stop is there, currently hard up against the sole of the plane. This is good. Very Happy

If it where mine, I would give the screws a soak with plus gas, well thats showing my age, doubt you can still buy the stuff, used to swear by it on my old BSA Twisted Evil

OK try some WD40 then try to slacken them and see if that is the depth stop. Post us another picture of your progress Wink

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Dog · Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject:

I'll give it a good soaking in WD40 tomorrow, just bought a gallon of the stuff so that'll do nicely for this particular task and I'll post more pics as I uncover what is there and what isn't. One of the fence (?) adjustment screws is missing but no doubt I'll come across one on my travels Smile

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Alf · Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:42 pm Post subject:

Jim, I'll add a "yes, please" to the photo request. Very Happy

Dog, you've got a lot of luvverly rust removal to do there. Smile

I agree with Dave, looks like the depth stop is there. Can't see what's holding it though; pesky modern designs. Wink

I don't want to put you off, but the missing screw may be more of a problem than you think. Stanley had an unhappy knack of using non-standard threads, so you're best bet is to hope it's sufficiently new to have something a little less unusual. If worse comes to worse, you can always re-tap anyway. Very Happy

Cheers, Alf

Dog · Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:

And so it continues...After a day soaking in WD40 I have removed the fence and I think found the Depth Stop, see pic link.

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Depth-Stop.jpg

The other pic shows a plate that is secured via two bolts. There is only one plate but either there is provision to move it to the other side or there should be another plate which is missing ?

http://www.uploadit.org/7dogsplus1/Plate.jpg
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