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paulc
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject: plug cutter Reply with quote

hello all, just bought a 'GENERAL' plug cutter , but every time I try to cut out a plug it hardly enters the wood and wood and cutter begin to overheat and burn up , drill isn't on reverse and have tried fast and slow speeds , whats goin on?
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Waka
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul

It sounds like it needs a good seeing too, sharpening that is.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Blunt?

I haven't had this problem with my cutter but have onlyused it in fairly soft wood. Are you cuttijg hard wood as this may be a problem?

CHeers

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,
try cutting so that part of the cutter exits the side of the piece while stil cutting a full plug). This allows the sawdust to exit, preventing a lot of the overheating problem. Also, are you using a vice or hold down to make sure the wood doesn't move? That also helps.
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Chris Knight
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,
Can you be more specific as to the type of plug cutter? Is it one like this http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=CLI57010M

or like this?
http://www.axminster.co.uk/default.asp?part=J0501

The first type can be good and expensive like the Clico in the picture through OK and middling priced to rubbish and cheap.

The second type tend to work even in the cheaper range but then you dont get a tapered plug and the diameters are sometimes off by enough to matter
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paulc
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: plug cutter Reply with quote

Chris , its like the first one - Clico Precision except the top is totally flat with no teeth or seration. described as -self starting in hand held power drill, self ejecting , high carbon steel for long life , have tried it in red deal and maple , think I'll return it , cheers , Paul
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Chris Knight
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,
I think you got a lemon. I had to buy a Clico cutter like this once in a three quarter inch diameter after a cheapy failed to perform. The Clico worked perfectly but it was expensive!

Depending what you are trying to do, don't overlook holesaws and Forstner bits and circle (fly) cutters and routers. With everything except the Forstner bits you can make holes or plugs - although of course the diameters differ (which I know you knew but I didn't want to be accused of misleading anyone!)
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:29 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,
Before you send it back I forgot to ask-do you use the bit in a drill press or free-hand? I have a set of cheapies in the same style as yours and they work fine in my drill press using the method I described earlier. (And I mean they were CHEAP!)
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