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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:09 am Post subject: |
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That is one of the things about the method that I used Richard. It isn't that much hard work. The shaping of the outer radius of the spirals was done with my Carol sander drums and I didn't go for an 'exact plastic moulding' type of finish. The only awkward thing for me as I said ws the sanding strip and if I could find a way to get one of the sanding drums in there I definitely would!!
I agree that solid spirals, or the method I tried are MUCH harder. I can't remember whose method I used, but it is done with a 1/2 round gouge, a 'capstan' on the live end and turning the piece by hand while gouging the spiral. I have just left the piece onthe bench to remind me not to try it again  _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Whale oil beef hooked!!
It does cause a bit of tear out with the forstner bit. I gave it a quick sharpen before I did it too!
I have cleaned a fair bit of it up, but there was definitely a fair bit of tear out. It won't cause a problem because the Carol sander just takes it out. It is a fair bit more awkward to do the sanding though with the twist in the other direction.
Tres bizarre! _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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George Foweraker Furniture Maker

Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 321 Location: Burnham on Sea Somerset.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work well done.
Regards george _________________ The man that never made a mistake never made anything. www.artistry-in-wood.co.uk |
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dickm Master Furnituremaker
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: North of Aberdeen
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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In the wonderful world of theory, it's supposed to be possible to make spirals like that on the router lathe that I picked up from the tip for £3. But doesn't seem to work in practice .
Still doesn't detract from the fact that OP has done a super job there. _________________ Dick M |
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think that you would have to have a router bit that will plunge to about 1 3/4" to get to the bottom of that lot Dick? Much more simple with a forstner bit and a steady eye? I wish I had that steady eye 'cause I got the bit!
It is lovely to see the result after a bit of care though... _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well I could now change the title of this thread to Spiral candle sticks because I have done the second. It was more difficult doing the right hand thread. That was mainly due to the orientation of the twist when I was smoothing down the form from the forstner bit cuts. Quite surprising really 'cause I thought it would be very similar.
I am pleased with the results but I think that I will spend a bit more time and effort on the finish? Well maybe, but I am a lazy git, so???
Oh yes, the candle on the left hand one is now straight!  _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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Bodrighy Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 4247 Location: Cornwall
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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A pair of these about 4' tall would look really Gothic wouldn't they?
They are very impressive the size they are though, good job, well done
pete _________________ Mistakes are serendipity in disguise
He who works with his hands is a labourer, he who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman, he who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an artist (St Francis of Assisi) |
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Richard Findley Master Furnituremaker

Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 1037 Location: Leicester
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oh dear Pete, I have a 'forum friend' coming to stay for a few daze next week. He is a VERY enthusiastic chainsaw carving pro and he has asked me if I could get a lump of oak about 3 foot long and 18" across the heart. He will bring a few of his saws and we will see about carving (?) one of these at that size!!! I haven't even dared to tell OH yet! But I can see it happening if I can get that lump? IF!!!!! it happens I will post photos? Don't hold yer breffff!
Richard, thank you. I was really pleased how the pair turned out and I have a request from someone on a Francophile forum for a pair! She is also very interested in the tractor that I posted a while back
All I will have to do now is try to put a price on them?? Much more difficult than the making! _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Jonzjob/
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Bodrighy Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 4247 Location: Cornwall
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Give yourself an hourly rate, + cost of materials etc then adapt for buyer. Friend usually cheaper and so forth
pete _________________ Mistakes are serendipity in disguise
He who works with his hands is a labourer, he who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman, he who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an artist (St Francis of Assisi) |
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the materials are easy. 250€ for 4 stere (4 cubic meters) of fire wood. That would come to about 10 centimes for the lot? Time??? I'll have to think about that
Ta for the tips Pete.
I think that it was you Pete that posted about a pro on a video you saw that was saying that if you started with firewood then that's what you finished up with. Is there any chance that you might remember just who that was? I would love to send him a couple of photos. _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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Well, I now have a commission to make a pair of said candle sticks. Plus the tractor/trailer that I posted earlier and I am really looking forward to doing both!
Just as a reminder if you didn't see the tractor. It was such a lovely thing to make and just for me! This one has to be as good or even better if I can!
 _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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richburrow Furniture Maker

Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 547 Location: nottingham / gloucester
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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That is mint, must have taken ages.
 _________________ Forget the tv / I would rather be sitting in the workshop |
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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Thank you Rich.
A bit longer than most of the other things that I have turned I must admit?? _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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Jonzjob Furniture Maker

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 606 Location: Nr Carcassonne, S France
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody hell! They are reproducing!!!!
 _________________ John.
I have discovered that wine really does get better with age.
The older I get the more I like it!
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