Saved from the fire

frugal · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: Saved from the fire

After my last bowl seemed like such a success I decided to try a more interesting (read difficult) shape. This piece is once again a nice looking piece of ash that was saved from the firewood pile at a reenactment event (I am such a cheapskate).

I wanted to try to make more of an ogee shape in order to try and improve my gouge control. what I ended up with was this:

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There was supposed to be a foot on this. It started off well, but the wood for the foot was very soft and must have been sap wood. It disintegrated when I tried to shape it, so it all came off unfortunately.

The outside of the bowl certainly taught me that the way I present the gouge determines the angle of the cut, it was a bit strange getting used to moving the handle hand in order to change the direction of the cut.
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wizer · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject:

I will say it again, you're a natural. Good shape, good finish. I think it looks better for not having a foot. If you were feeling a little braver you could have made the bottom slightly more rounded so it 'wobbled', which is an 'arty' thing to do. I think it would have suited this well, but is obviously less practical.
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frugal · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject:

Jonzjob · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject:

That is a lovely bowl and I am afraid that I don't subcrribe to "á la mode" and the instability it is talking of today. For me, it's a bit like tatoos, easy to put on, but what do you do when it goes out of fashon. I can imagine the foot on it and I don't think that it has suffered much without it. Did you cut the outside or inside first? With a bowl like that I always eithr=er mount it on a screw chuck or hot glue onto a wood faced face plate and do the outside first. I find it easier then to follow on the inside.

But, I do the opposite with goblets.

Ash is not the easiest wood to get a good finish on, but you have got it right for me! I like the lip. When I saw the first photo, I thought it was going to be heavy and it was a lovely surprise!

As a matter of interest, the next time I am up on Froster Hill, Selsley Common or Cam Long Down flying a radio controlled glider is not going to be my first time and perhapse not my last either? Next time you are up there and see model fliers, go and say helo, they are a great bunch of blokes and tell them that John the Soar Bits in France says hello too!
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stevebuk · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject:

Deja Vu here, have done exactly the same shaped bowl today but i am considering doing some pyrography on it as an experimental piece.
Lovely wood frugal and nicely turned too, i dont recall seeing the dimensions of it though.
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Ad de Crom · Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:52 am Post subject:

Frugal, if I may say a nice experience with making this shaped bowl, a bit unusual shape for a bowl, but like you said good for gouge control.
I have no problems with the shape of the bowl, it's refreshing to see an other bowl shape. Well executed, good save (from the fireplace).
Really don't understand why people put such nice wood into the pile for firewood.
Very well done.
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frugal · Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject:

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frugal · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:24 am Post subject:

I decided to have a single thread to keep track of my turning attempts rather than create a new thread for each one.

I went out to the workshop again today to have another crack at hollowing the end of a goblet.

After a number of different approaches at hollowing out. I think I was happiest with the Mike Darlow method the best of the various different methods in the books I have (serves me right for trying to learn everything from books rather than finding another human being to talk to). after a while I got something that resembled the inside of a goblet (admittedly the goblet was about 2 inches shorted than when I started Wink

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I decided to make the walls a bit thinner than I am normally comfortable with (the bowls have been 5-8mm thick), this is about 1 - 2mm thick. the stem was interesting as once I shaped the stem I realised that there was so much whipping that I could not finish the outside of the bowl properly. This is why you can see a bit of patterning at the top of the bowl, the spindle gouge bounced a bit as the walls got thinner.

The only things I am disappointed about are the patterning at the top of the bowl and the fact that the base is about 1/8 wider than the bowl and 1/4 too high.

I am please that I managed to get the hollowing fairly smooth and that I can just about see my fingers through that walls of the goblet. I am also amazed that the stem held up in one piece.

The final piece is 5.5" high and 2.5" in diameter from a piece of apple that was saved from the firewood pile.

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wizer · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:30 am Post subject:

right I've got the 'ump now, how do I ignore this thread???

Laughing

Very nice work mate Wink

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Paul.J · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:32 am Post subject:

That looks really elegant,from the stem up Very Happy

Really nice shape to the stem and bowl.
Not sure which method you used but you have to work and finish from the top down in stages.Leaving the bulk in the bottom.
Really good for a first attempt i think Very Happy

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Bodrighy · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:40 am Post subject:

That is really elegant. Getting a good goblet shape isn't easy at all. One tip. The base should be roughly 2/3rds the diameter of the bowl to be in proportion. I was told that and cynic that I am measured the wine glasses in the cupboard and they were all those dimensions. Otherwise that is one pretty goblet.

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stevebuk · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:29 am Post subject:

lovely goblet frugal, must agree with pete about the foot though, but a great effort.. Laughing

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CHJ · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:56 am Post subject:

OK, late on the scene again with comments but the bowl and stem certainly show good clean lines, well done, like the others though the base looks a little too wide and heavy for me, well finished though for all that.
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Jonzjob · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject:

I agree with the comments made in that the base is a bit heavy. If you actually did the stem and then did the outside of the bowl then you were really living dangerously! If you do it that way then you could always bring the tail stock up, put a wad of papre towel over a live centre and support the bowl that way. Just don't put any more pressure on the tail stock thatn is needed to hold it steady though..

Nice shape and very elegant and using the tail stock you could possibly trim the base?
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