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jlawrence Furniture Maker
Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 758 Location: Weston-super-Mare
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Tom, I see no point in you even attempting to try and get them in the post before xmas.
Come on then, what are your first impressions of it. _________________ My blog |
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OPJ Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 5100 Location: North Somerset
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tom,
Just do your usual thing:
Drop it on the concrete floor a couple of times
Run the plane over a bit of wood embedded with a nail
Leave it somewhere warm & damp for a few days
use as a hammer
Use blade as a screwdriver
THEN report back  |
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wizer Professional Mutterer

Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 15380 Location: Creating and Fixing C*ckups Nr Dartford, Kent.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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shhh, don't tell Matthew
I've just got them next to be in bed at the moment. I will arise from my pit soon and venture out to the workshop later. Though I might not doa review today, I think I'd like a couple of plays to make up my mind.
First impressions are: I don't get an ounce of 'cheap' from looking and handling them. _________________ **UK Workshop Forum Badge? Now taking orders, get one before they run out!**
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” |
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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By "them" I assume you have the spokeshave too??
Get up you lazy bu££er - I've done 4 hours work!!
I bet your Physiotherapist didn't say "lie in bed as long as you want" |
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woodbloke Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 8940 Location: Salisbury,UK...counting down the pay cheques...20, or it might be 19
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| wizer wrote: | shhh, don't tell Matthew
I've just got them next to be in bed at the moment. I will arise from my pit soon and venture out to the workshop later. Though I might not doa review today, I think I'd like a couple of plays to make up my mind.
First impressions are: I don't get an ounce of 'cheap' from looking and handling them. |
Tom - very interested in your appraisal of the rebating block as there's one stamped 'Blokeblock' in Matthew's wharehouse - Rob _________________ The most dangerous thing in a workshop is a bit of sandpaper...not withstanding the 'Slope'
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wizer Professional Mutterer

Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 15380 Location: Creating and Fixing C*ckups Nr Dartford, Kent.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jim there's only so much physio you can do in one day. What else am I supposed to do? Standing in the workshop for more than an hour, hurts like hell. Sitting in a chair is a no no. It's too cold to go out? It's not like I'm enjoying it, I'm bored as hell!! _________________ **UK Workshop Forum Badge? Now taking orders, get one before they run out!**
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| wizer wrote: | | Jim there's only so much physio you can do in one day. What else am I supposed to do? Standing in the workshop for more than an hour, hurts like hell. Sitting in a chair is a no no. It's too cold to go out? It's not like I'm enjoying it, I'm bored as hell!! |
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wizer Professional Mutterer

Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 15380 Location: Creating and Fixing C*ckups Nr Dartford, Kent.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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 _________________ **UK Workshop Forum Badge? Now taking orders, get one before they run out!**
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” |
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Alan Jones Furniture Maker
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 540 Location: County Durham
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wizer ,I was aware that these were not from the same Chinese manufacture as the Tillgear offerings, but they are none the less Chinese offerings. So why the general change in attitude . If I remember correctly Tillgear were berated for selling cheap copies of western goods ,with even threats of boycotting them for doing so.
Personally I wouldnt touch them as I will only buy one plane of a type in my lifetime ie one 4 1/2 one 5 1/2 etc so prefer to buy Clifton etc as the cost differential over a lifetime is insignificant. My LIe Nielsons ,Cliftons etc will allways have a considerable residual value, can the same be said of far eastern offerings? The saddest aspect to me is that the potential purchasers of these will be complaining when their jobs are lost to the far east. |
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wizer Professional Mutterer

Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 15380 Location: Creating and Fixing C*ckups Nr Dartford, Kent.
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Well issues of buying from the far east aside.
These planes seem to be very high quality. I'll report later on just how high that is. They have been well received in the states with no particular harsh backlash to support LN. The Tilgear ones were found to be of poor quality, especially the irons. So I'll be looking at that and the others can cast their opinions too. That's the benefit of a passaround.
For the record. I think I'd also rather have Clifton. If only for the 'keeping it British' angle. That said, I'm on meagre earnings and could do with a better block plane than the Stanley I have. So this could well be a stop gap until Clifton go ahead with their block plane. _________________ **UK Workshop Forum Badge? Now taking orders, get one before they run out!**
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Alan Jones wrote: |
The saddest aspect to me is that the potential purchasers of these will be complaining when their jobs are lost to the far east. |
Not to mention the carbon footprint. |
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| lurker wrote: | By "them" I assume you have the spokeshave too??
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I know you got sidetracked with you usual moans but ................... |
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Alan Jones Furniture Maker
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 540 Location: County Durham
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Wizer is the mythical Clifton block plane ever going to be produced? I reckon Ill be pushing up daisies before that arrives.Unless you know something I dont in which case pray tell  |
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lurker Master Cabinetmaker
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2243 Location: Leicestershire
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Alan,
I think his point is that as Clifton don't do a block then buying a squashi whatsit does not breach your buy British Campaign. |
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